1 00:00:44,439 --> 00:00:41,750 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 2 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:44,449 ride into the world of the paranoid 3 00:00:52,029 --> 00:00:47,730 strap yourself in as we traverse the 4 00:00:55,149 --> 00:00:52,039 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 5 00:00:57,530 --> 00:00:55,159 ghosts Lost Worlds 6 00:01:01,369 --> 00:00:57,540 cryptozoology waters as well as other 7 00:01:06,499 --> 00:01:01,379 dimensions it's time to take back the 8 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:06,509 night now your electrifying hosts of 9 00:01:16,639 --> 00:01:09,630 exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and 10 00:01:18,950 --> 00:01:16,649 team sports you know it's it's awful hot 11 00:01:22,669 --> 00:01:18,960 where I am here Wow look at all these 12 00:01:25,580 --> 00:01:22,679 demons they're closing in on me 13 00:01:28,730 --> 00:01:25,590 hello my god I never believed it 14 00:01:31,730 --> 00:01:28,740 but that looks like Satan's over there 15 00:01:34,249 --> 00:01:31,740 putting cold on the fire I've got to get 16 00:01:40,649 --> 00:01:34,259 out of here this must really be hell 17 00:01:48,990 --> 00:01:43,669 Jim by the pricking of my thumb's 18 00:01:54,569 --> 00:01:53,969 poetic you say alright Jim can you help 19 00:01:58,609 --> 00:01:54,579 me here 20 00:02:01,859 --> 00:01:58,619 Oh Dubai I'll do my best 21 00:02:04,289 --> 00:02:01,869 sure what I could do well send me a 22 00:02:07,289 --> 00:02:04,299 ladder down here well how about a coin I 23 00:02:09,809 --> 00:02:07,299 think yeah aren't you supposed to pay 24 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:09,819 the the boatman on the river stuff yeah 25 00:02:13,710 --> 00:02:12,310 yeah I guess so I don't have any change 26 00:02:16,890 --> 00:02:13,720 I got a lot of pennies I don't know how 27 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:16,900 far that I'll get me I think I know 28 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:18,910 they're pennies from heaven that'll do 29 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:24,430 it don't you spend all those in Atlantic 30 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:26,950 City last week you know they don't the 31 00:02:32,009 --> 00:02:29,920 petty machines don't take pennies oh you 32 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:32,019 you can't you can't use right now I 33 00:02:35,759 --> 00:02:33,910 don't know about Las Vegas we'll have to 34 00:02:40,410 --> 00:02:35,769 find out from our producer Tina they're 35 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:40,420 Ocasio our radio but here in Atlantic 36 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:42,970 City they don't take any Queens they 37 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:44,230 don't take any cash 38 00:02:47,940 --> 00:02:46,329 well maybe you can shove a $20 bill into 39 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:47,950 the machine but they certainly don't 40 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:50,560 take any coins and there are no handles 41 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,540 on the machines anymore you just said 42 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:53,920 that you know I watch from a distance 43 00:02:57,870 --> 00:02:55,930 because I don't realize I don't gamble 44 00:03:00,180 --> 00:02:57,880 anyway people just put the money in and 45 00:03:02,610 --> 00:03:00,190 they pumped a you know they put in seven 46 00:03:04,979 --> 00:03:02,620 or ten quarters now now you can play up 47 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:04,989 to 50 lines or something like that you 48 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:07,030 know I mean I like the one when it's 49 00:03:11,339 --> 00:03:09,280 just one line you know seven seven seven 50 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:11,349 it's not complicated I either win or I 51 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:14,319 lose right how do you figure all this 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:16,329 thing ever figure it out to me it's just 53 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:18,010 it's kind of dull and it's kind of 54 00:03:22,860 --> 00:03:20,889 boring and I'm sure the Chamber of 55 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:22,870 Commerce will not be hiring me but 56 00:03:31,979 --> 00:03:30,220 that's folks person so are you getting 57 00:03:35,250 --> 00:03:31,989 ready for the holiday 58 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:35,260 oh yes yes well you know my daughter 59 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:37,209 she's all excited you know she can't 60 00:03:41,180 --> 00:03:39,370 wait for the holidays to get here she 61 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:41,190 can't wait for school to let out for the 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:43,959 the holiday break that's that's no boy 63 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:47,410 yet I put up my Christmas tree today on 64 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:51,250 the tiki bar the I took it out of the 65 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:54,370 closet very dusty 66 00:03:58,650 --> 00:03:57,760 and there's a tinsel on it leftover from 67 00:04:01,770 --> 00:03:58,660 last year 68 00:04:04,259 --> 00:04:01,780 and there are lights on the tree but 69 00:04:06,809 --> 00:04:04,269 there's no place to plug it in because 70 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:06,819 if you saw my place like every a modern 71 00:04:11,059 --> 00:04:07,690 place today 72 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:11,069 you know when the building was built in 73 00:04:16,530 --> 00:04:14,260 1903 what did they have for electricity 74 00:04:18,270 --> 00:04:16,540 you know I mean one along one lamp or 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:18,280 something like that the radio hadn't 76 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:22,050 even been invented yet heaven forbid and 77 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:24,280 so there's no there's no place to plug 78 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:25,900 it in it's all you know set up with 79 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:29,080 computers and modems and the wire from 80 00:04:33,090 --> 00:04:30,820 the Christmas tree is about I don't know 81 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:33,100 foot long or something but you know my 82 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:35,410 eyes glisten and that's all I am that's 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:37,750 all I need that's right that's right 84 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:39,490 well somebody wants to send me some 85 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:41,380 poppy seed cake I love poppy seed cake 86 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:44,200 so there you go just wrap it up good and 87 00:04:49,379 --> 00:04:48,150 put it in the mail priority before it's 88 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:49,389 too late 89 00:04:55,740 --> 00:04:52,600 anyway enough for this merriment and 90 00:04:59,219 --> 00:04:55,750 chatter about the holidays because we 91 00:05:02,400 --> 00:04:59,229 have to a guess the fourth coming on the 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:02,410 the show and we're going to talk tonight 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:05,410 about demons and ghosts and exorcisms 94 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:08,050 and the things that you'd like to bump 95 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:10,810 into in the night no oh yeah I know 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:13,240 that's that's okay oh well but you know 97 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:14,650 Tim I mean this is the perfect time of 98 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:17,590 year because you know ghost stories 99 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:20,110 around Christmas you know that's that's 100 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:23,289 that's been a favorite pastime for you 101 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:26,110 know hundreds of years so I mean you 102 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:29,950 know Christmas you know Carol we missed 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:33,340 a crumpets or maybe we didn't miss him 104 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:37,570 that was on December 5th mm-hmm and did 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:39,580 you get a cold in your stocking or was 106 00:05:46,110 --> 00:05:42,690 the the Donald Trump put it there or was 107 00:05:47,610 --> 00:05:46,120 oh well you know around around here in 108 00:05:50,370 --> 00:05:47,620 the town but I live in I mean you know 109 00:05:54,450 --> 00:05:50,380 it's an old German heritage and so they 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:54,460 they do celebrate was at Saint Nicholas 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:57,130 at night or something like that and so 112 00:06:01,409 --> 00:05:59,410 crumpets comes and steals her children 113 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:01,419 you know if they've been bad he's got 114 00:06:05,219 --> 00:06:03,310 like a big goodie sack that'll shove 115 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:05,229 them down into him you know I was 116 00:06:08,340 --> 00:06:07,810 listening it to a darkness radio or 117 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:08,350 friend Dave 118 00:06:14,130 --> 00:06:10,870 Schrader's you know it is the host and 119 00:06:17,010 --> 00:06:14,140 he had a someone the other night talking 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:17,020 about Krampus but there are even worse 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:19,570 Christmas entities than the Krampus 122 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:22,570 there's one that will take your children 123 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:24,760 behind the woodshed and use a belt on 124 00:06:32,610 --> 00:06:27,370 them or a switch and then he turns them 125 00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:32,620 over to Krampus I don't know you're 126 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:35,950 lucky if you just get to see a Krampus I 127 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:36,310 don't know 128 00:06:39,710 --> 00:06:38,590 hey let's introduce our guest and then 129 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:39,720 we'll ask them if they have any 130 00:06:45,630 --> 00:06:43,060 Christmas stories oh well be my pleasure 131 00:06:48,210 --> 00:06:45,640 well tonight we've got two great guests 132 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:48,220 we've got the river and Sean Whittington 133 00:06:55,710 --> 00:06:51,370 who is with us tonight right here in the 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:55,720 studio's of K cor and about I'd put an 135 00:07:02,940 --> 00:06:58,690 extra R in there K cor digital video 136 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:02,950 there you go now Reverend Sean is a 137 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:04,810 devout Catholic and an ordained 138 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:07,810 spiritual warfare minister well as well 139 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:10,290 he's the host of the popular webcast 140 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:13,210 Vegas supernatural right here on this 141 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:15,670 network now along with his wife Sharron 142 00:07:20,460 --> 00:07:17,920 who is very strong in her Lutheran faith 143 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:20,470 and a sensitive intuitive the husband 144 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:22,660 and wife ghostbusting team have over 40 145 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:25,420 years combined experience now the team 146 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:27,030 is fully equipped to perform thorough 147 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:29,800 paranormal investigations if needed and 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:32,590 you can find out more about them at 149 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:38,290 their website ghosts be gone biz and you 150 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:42,370 can find that URL on our website right 151 00:07:48,150 --> 00:07:45,370 here at KCR and also with us tonight is 152 00:07:50,310 --> 00:07:48,160 Paul Dale Roberts a good friend of both 153 00:07:52,380 --> 00:07:50,320 of ours now Paul is a freelance writer 154 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:52,390 and has written travel articles comic 155 00:07:57,540 --> 00:07:54,400 book reviews paranormal stories on 156 00:07:59,130 --> 00:07:57,550 ghosts and UFOs his real job is an 157 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,140 office manager for a government agency 158 00:08:04,250 --> 00:08:02,080 me Joy's traveling the world has been 159 00:08:07,710 --> 00:08:04,260 into over 40 countries and territories 160 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:13,020 Jody Gennaro I love Rio he's also the 161 00:08:17,839 --> 00:08:15,370 author of the popular HPI Chronicles 162 00:08:20,749 --> 00:08:17,849 volumes 1 through 163 00:08:22,339 --> 00:08:20,759 five so Paul Reverend Sean thank you 164 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:22,349 very much for being with us tonight on 165 00:08:26,029 --> 00:08:24,990 exploring the bizarre my pleasure thank 166 00:08:30,949 --> 00:08:26,039 you for inviting me 167 00:08:32,779 --> 00:08:30,959 well 48 countries I III am impressed I 168 00:08:38,569 --> 00:08:32,789 wish I were in your shoes if they were 169 00:08:40,219 --> 00:08:38,579 big enough III well I've always they 170 00:08:46,930 --> 00:08:40,229 have to be they have to be big enough 171 00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:50,720 okay yeah so we got any Christmas 172 00:08:55,610 --> 00:08:52,860 stories out there 173 00:08:58,009 --> 00:08:55,620 well how about okay maybe not a 174 00:09:02,030 --> 00:08:58,019 Christmas story but how about a Taco 175 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Bell UFO Taco Bell UFO all right well we 176 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:07,050 could start there oh okay okay well I 177 00:09:11,540 --> 00:09:09,360 well I put my cell phone number out 178 00:09:14,449 --> 00:09:11,550 there so I call it the paranormal 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:14,459 hotline and I get a lot of phone calls 180 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:17,850 and one of the craziest stories that I 181 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:22,380 heard is this guy his name's mr. Reyes 182 00:09:29,329 --> 00:09:25,649 that's what I'll call him and he says 183 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:29,339 that they were in the town of Buyten 184 00:09:34,189 --> 00:09:31,410 which is near 185 00:09:37,999 --> 00:09:34,199 I guess that's near by stroke I'm sorry 186 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:38,009 that's near Modesto and they were hungry 187 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:40,500 they're ready that was hella fine that 188 00:09:46,490 --> 00:09:42,600 would be California yeah California 189 00:09:49,269 --> 00:09:46,500 California yeah and they spied it Taco 190 00:09:53,870 --> 00:09:49,279 Bell they were hungry and before they 191 00:09:56,629 --> 00:09:53,880 went on this trip they were headed for 192 00:09:59,449 --> 00:09:56,639 Los Angeles and they went into this Taco 193 00:10:02,900 --> 00:09:59,459 Bell and they thought it was really 194 00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:02,910 unusual because the cashiers eyes seemed 195 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:07,980 dark and elongated and the words on the 196 00:10:14,019 --> 00:10:10,380 display mean you became very blurry for 197 00:10:16,819 --> 00:10:14,029 them and the windows became solid white 198 00:10:20,110 --> 00:10:16,829 and this is what he's relating to me 199 00:10:23,059 --> 00:10:20,120 okay everything in the room became white 200 00:10:25,939 --> 00:10:23,069 mr. Reyes remembers seeing his wife and 201 00:10:29,569 --> 00:10:25,949 two daughters laying on a white solid 202 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:29,579 table and the cashiers now looked like 203 00:10:34,370 --> 00:10:31,200 aliens standing over 204 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:34,380 family members they look like demon is 205 00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:37,680 that we so like aliens like alien okay 206 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,230 yeah aliens I said de grâce 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:42,720 yeah and mr. Reyes remembers extreme 208 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:45,810 pain in the nasal cavity area and 209 00:10:51,470 --> 00:10:49,320 screamed for help and a taller alien 210 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,480 creature touched his forehead and he 211 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:54,000 mentally received the message that 212 00:11:00,260 --> 00:10:58,260 everything will be alright and mr. Reyes 213 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:00,270 and his family found themselves back in 214 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:02,130 their vehicle and they were parked on 215 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:04,890 the side of the freeway highway 99 and 216 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:07,650 this is what he's claiming he's swearing 217 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:10,530 up and down on it and mr. Reyes may see 218 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:14,070 a you may see a hypnotist he says to 219 00:11:19,070 --> 00:11:15,930 find out what the complete experience 220 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:19,080 was all about after the incident mr. 221 00:11:24,730 --> 00:11:20,910 Reyes said that he had a small seizure 222 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:24,740 and he never had a seizure before well 223 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:27,990 let me know okay yeah go ahead but I I 224 00:11:33,890 --> 00:11:30,030 have something to add here could finish 225 00:11:36,950 --> 00:11:33,900 on up okay so basically what it's coming 226 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:36,960 down to is this Taco Bell actually 227 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:43,170 became a UFO and and he was enticed to 228 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:45,450 go in there thinking of some Taco Bell 229 00:11:51,950 --> 00:11:48,330 and then everything changed everything 230 00:11:56,180 --> 00:11:51,960 became white the menu became blurry the 231 00:12:02,120 --> 00:11:56,190 cashiers turned I bet I bet the food I 232 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:02,130 bet the food was better no free taco 233 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:06,450 bell for us know so I just thought that 234 00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:11,730 was really really unusual now let me 235 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,760 tell you a story there is an incident 236 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:16,560 that we published in one of our books 237 00:12:22,430 --> 00:12:18,930 Tim if you recall that was taken from 238 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:22,440 the April bulletin there was a family 239 00:12:28,940 --> 00:12:26,250 this might be a UH an urban legend but 240 00:12:30,490 --> 00:12:28,950 this is a piece that was published in 241 00:12:32,630 --> 00:12:30,500 the rather prestigious and 242 00:12:36,110 --> 00:12:32,640 straightforward high probability and 243 00:12:39,890 --> 00:12:36,120 many many years ago a family was driving 244 00:12:42,340 --> 00:12:39,900 through the mountains in Oregon and they 245 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:42,350 were running short on gas 246 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:47,510 and they saw a fast-food restaurant so 247 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:50,360 they they stopped in and it was shaped 248 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:53,440 like a somewhat like a flying saucer 249 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:57,020 kind of like now I don't think the maybe 250 00:13:00,640 --> 00:12:58,610 the first star I don't think the first 251 00:13:04,690 --> 00:13:00,650 star wars have come out but when they 252 00:13:07,180 --> 00:13:04,700 got inside the the waitresses and the 253 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:07,190 the you know the the it was weird it was 254 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:09,050 strange and there were some robots 255 00:13:17,260 --> 00:13:12,730 working the the fast-food counter and 256 00:13:19,570 --> 00:13:17,270 and all of that you know it was just 257 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:19,580 pretty much the way you described that 258 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:23,860 incident there now when they left the 259 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:28,310 restaurant they found out that they they 260 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:31,010 had not spent any money apparently the 261 00:13:35,740 --> 00:13:33,590 the counter people refused to take in 262 00:13:40,210 --> 00:13:35,750 the earthly coin that they were offered 263 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:40,220 and the car kind of glided out of the 264 00:13:45,850 --> 00:13:43,850 parking lot and back onto the road so 265 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:45,860 they really didn't they were able to get 266 00:13:50,650 --> 00:13:47,930 home you know and then they ran out of 267 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:50,660 gas so that was fine now they liked the 268 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:52,550 food so much that a couple of weeks 269 00:13:57,250 --> 00:13:55,580 later they decide to take a drive to 270 00:14:02,260 --> 00:13:57,260 find this fast-food restaurant which 271 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:02,270 they found to be rather unusual and in 272 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:03,890 addition it was kind of in a strange 273 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:05,360 place up in the mountains I mean they 274 00:14:09,970 --> 00:14:07,310 didn't expect to see a fast-food 275 00:14:12,250 --> 00:14:09,980 restaurant there so they drove back to 276 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:12,260 the area where the fast-food restaurant 277 00:14:18,060 --> 00:14:14,330 was but there was no fast-food 278 00:14:20,590 --> 00:14:18,070 restaurant so they did come along a 279 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:20,600 construction team working on the highway 280 00:14:25,630 --> 00:14:23,270 and they stopped and they said can you 281 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:25,640 tell us where the fast-food restaurant 282 00:14:30,460 --> 00:14:28,880 is that shaped like a spaceship and the 283 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:30,470 people you know working on the 284 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:31,790 construction site looked at him like 285 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:34,730 they were total idiots and said you know 286 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:36,410 there isn't a restaurant a fast-food 287 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:39,140 restaurant here there's a diner like 30 288 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:41,420 miles down the road is the nearest place 289 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:45,230 to to eat so lady you must have been 290 00:14:49,270 --> 00:14:47,210 hallucinating and maybe they were 291 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:49,280 hallucinating but that's the second 292 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:52,970 story and as Tim can tell you food does 293 00:14:56,199 --> 00:14:55,070 seem to play a definite part in the 294 00:15:00,819 --> 00:14:56,209 paranormal we 295 00:15:03,549 --> 00:15:00,829 had John what's-his-name Christian Kuja 296 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:03,559 Nielsen yeah Christian on who's written 297 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:06,740 just the about this the smells and food 298 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:11,569 and things associated with with the UFOs 299 00:15:17,199 --> 00:15:13,689 and Bigfoot and other paranormal 300 00:15:21,939 --> 00:15:17,209 experiences so we're we're not exactly 301 00:15:23,499 --> 00:15:21,949 in new territory here maybe there are 302 00:15:26,799 --> 00:15:23,509 other listeners out there who have had 303 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:26,809 similar experiences and now that you've 304 00:15:35,949 --> 00:15:34,059 whatever that is absolutely amazing 305 00:15:37,569 --> 00:15:35,959 because I didn't know there was other 306 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:37,579 stories like that out there and when he 307 00:15:40,569 --> 00:15:40,040 told me that story it just kind of blew 308 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:40,579 me away 309 00:15:46,449 --> 00:15:43,610 but then I was thinking logically yeah 310 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:46,459 they would probably set something up and 311 00:15:53,139 --> 00:15:49,759 if they can mentally read your mind they 312 00:15:56,139 --> 00:15:53,149 okay this family loves Taco Bell so la 313 00:15:58,809 --> 00:15:56,149 make our spaceship look like a Taco Bell 314 00:16:04,239 --> 00:15:58,819 you know in them and the town of by 315 00:16:06,189 --> 00:16:04,249 Stroh is very very small yes and I think 316 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:06,199 there's only a gas station there there's 317 00:16:12,609 --> 00:16:08,959 not even a any fast food restaurants in 318 00:16:15,609 --> 00:16:12,619 that area so now it's just really and I 319 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:15,619 just thought it was just he didn't 320 00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:18,049 really want to be identified because he 321 00:16:23,049 --> 00:16:20,119 he don't want to be a laughingstock he 322 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:23,059 said you know his co-workers everybody 323 00:16:28,569 --> 00:16:25,759 well if the if he's listening to this 324 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:28,579 program let him know that he is not 325 00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:31,670 alone and that he's welcome to come on 326 00:16:36,489 --> 00:16:33,860 and tell his story and identify himself 327 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:36,499 and there will be a free taco bell for 328 00:16:46,329 --> 00:16:43,850 him if he does so and I got I got some I 329 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:46,339 guess a couple other UFO stories and yes 330 00:16:55,419 --> 00:16:49,610 he has to deal with my wife okay Deanna 331 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:55,429 Jackson Stinson and well when I first 332 00:17:02,470 --> 00:16:57,759 met her she had a lot of paranormal 333 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:02,480 experiences and and so she told me what 334 00:17:06,579 --> 00:17:04,130 some of our paranormal experiences so 335 00:17:09,579 --> 00:17:06,589 one of them was being abducted as a 336 00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:09,589 child okay well that's 337 00:17:20,169 --> 00:17:16,279 not the crazy thing but as we well when 338 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:20,179 I finally I married her and the things 339 00:17:24,179 --> 00:17:22,010 that started happening is like I took 340 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:24,189 her on an investigation in Grass Valley 341 00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:27,260 were by Bill Air Force Base a lot of 342 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:31,340 UFOs are seen well she was she's very 343 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:35,990 mystical she had these two of them and 344 00:17:42,010 --> 00:17:38,570 she did like a little prayer over them 345 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:42,020 and she says okay if you're a UFO 346 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:45,200 power up she was about 200 yards from me 347 00:17:52,779 --> 00:17:48,799 and this thing powered up 348 00:17:56,169 --> 00:17:52,789 it became brighter and then it became 349 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:56,179 too was a smaller light after that and 350 00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:58,610 everybody was screaming where she was at 351 00:18:03,940 --> 00:18:02,000 Wow you know it gave her a funny and by 352 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:03,950 powering up okay well that was the first 353 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:08,210 thing then the second thing was we were 354 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:10,970 getting for Bodega Bay and we saw this 355 00:18:16,299 --> 00:18:12,799 thing that looked almost like a little 356 00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:16,309 rocket that had flame at the very end of 357 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:20,390 it and it was like flying sideways so 358 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:22,190 you know what the heck is that you know 359 00:18:29,789 --> 00:18:26,090 and she gets this impulse to sometimes 360 00:18:32,710 --> 00:18:29,799 look in a different area of the sky and 361 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:32,720 she pointed it out to me okay well okay 362 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:34,880 that was one thing that could be almost 363 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:36,890 anything to be something military or 364 00:18:42,610 --> 00:18:39,529 whatever okay so let's forget that 365 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:42,620 thought that one look and then we in 366 00:18:51,060 --> 00:18:46,490 Sacramento she goes Paul look to your 367 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:51,070 right side she goes there's a golden 368 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:54,470 cube in the sky I don't get out of here 369 00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:55,850 and I'm paying attention I'm on the 370 00:18:59,620 --> 00:18:57,320 freeway and I'm trying to pay attention 371 00:19:04,330 --> 00:18:59,630 to the road she goes no there's a cube 372 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:04,340 in the skies and when I looked at it 373 00:19:09,970 --> 00:19:07,250 didn't look like a black cube and I go 374 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:09,980 what the heck is that and she goes I 375 00:19:15,130 --> 00:19:12,020 don't know it's yes but I had this 376 00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:15,140 impulse to look on my right side and 377 00:19:20,049 --> 00:19:17,929 there it was in the sky I only lasted 378 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:20,059 for a couple seconds and it disappeared 379 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:22,540 okay well 380 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:24,850 moving on and while we're traveling 381 00:19:31,950 --> 00:19:29,500 through copperopolis California she gets 382 00:19:34,170 --> 00:19:31,960 this impulse to take a picture of the 383 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:34,180 sky she does I have to take a picture 384 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:36,010 right here slow down slow down 385 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:38,760 so I take it she takes a picture and 386 00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:42,400 there's a portal the listen looks like a 387 00:19:48,990 --> 00:19:46,060 black portal in the sky if I what the 388 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,000 heck did that so that was the other 389 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:52,000 instant and then she blew me away just 390 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:54,420 recently right here and they'll grow 391 00:19:59,640 --> 00:19:56,710 we're driving along she goes pulling 392 00:20:02,040 --> 00:19:59,650 through this parking lot and I pull into 393 00:20:03,090 --> 00:20:02,050 a parking lot or why she there was an 394 00:20:06,510 --> 00:20:03,100 empty parking lot 395 00:20:08,550 --> 00:20:06,520 she goes I have to take a picture of the 396 00:20:11,970 --> 00:20:08,560 moon she goes there something by the 397 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:11,980 moon and with the naked eye I don't see 398 00:20:16,950 --> 00:20:12,670 anything 399 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:16,960 she's NASA photo and there's three discs 400 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:21,670 in B formation and that picture right 401 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:25,120 now is in the August issue of Fortune 402 00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:27,010 magazine hmm 403 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:29,740 and I sent it over to Mia and they had 404 00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:31,990 no explanation what what is what issue 405 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:36,910 of 14 times then a November issue I'm 406 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:39,520 sorry that November issue it's right now 407 00:20:44,730 --> 00:20:42,400 in Barnes and Nobles oh good well I have 408 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:44,740 the one with the last issue I think has 409 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:47,530 the motorcycle motorcycle on the cover 410 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:54,880 is that the one brown cover look I I 411 00:20:59,310 --> 00:20:57,730 have it I have it Elaine Boyes okay I 412 00:21:02,450 --> 00:20:59,320 have all my living and I cannot all 413 00:21:06,750 --> 00:21:02,460 actually send you the link I actually 414 00:21:08,970 --> 00:21:06,760 videotaped the magazine so if you yes I 415 00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:08,980 mean you know and I'll see you oh no III 416 00:21:17,790 --> 00:21:12,280 like it I get all the issues that's what 417 00:21:20,550 --> 00:21:17,800 a few magazines that you can buy on the 418 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:20,560 newsstand there's anything yeah the 419 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:23,080 November issue has which bottles on the 420 00:21:26,940 --> 00:21:24,790 cover I haven't got that way yeah I 421 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:26,950 think that's it i think that one yeah 422 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:31,030 I'm holding it in my hand right now okay 423 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:33,490 now look in the middle and you're gonna 424 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:36,580 see like a picture of some houses 425 00:21:45,420 --> 00:21:42,250 and you'll see three discs in the sky in 426 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:45,430 their deformation yeah however my 427 00:21:49,170 --> 00:21:47,260 covering above the hovering above the 428 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:49,180 moon yeah that's a great picture yeah 429 00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:54,730 well no didn't we publish photos of some 430 00:22:03,060 --> 00:21:56,590 UFOs that you took was the unit took 431 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:03,070 them near Mount Shasta oh so you're a 432 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:07,870 you're a UFO repeater ha ha yeah but the 433 00:22:11,730 --> 00:22:09,430 only thing is I'm not the one that 434 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:11,740 attracts the UFOs yeah the one in Mount 435 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:14,560 Shasta was Delos uh Sylvia Browne 436 00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,980 secretary and she says she's psychic and 437 00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:19,840 she said Paul snapped a photo I mean 438 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,550 because you're gonna be surprised 439 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:23,200 there'll be something behind me I 440 00:22:29,580 --> 00:22:25,420 snapped the photo of her now right 441 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:29,590 behind her is that UFO and it's a like a 442 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:32,830 disc and it was sideways or whatever 443 00:22:37,340 --> 00:22:34,570 well mount 444 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:37,350 yeah mount share says one of the most 445 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:40,480 mysterious places you can possibly a 446 00:22:46,170 --> 00:22:42,970 visitor we have a book a couple of books 447 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:46,180 actually on oh yeah now Chester we get a 448 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:48,670 lot of mail from people who who go there 449 00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:50,530 I wouldn't say they're skeptical but 450 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:51,940 they go there you know either on a 451 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:54,610 vacation or to go hiking and all of a 452 00:22:58,290 --> 00:22:56,290 sudden they're according the the middle 453 00:23:01,560 --> 00:22:58,300 of some mystical experience right then 454 00:23:03,660 --> 00:23:01,570 that's right well unfortunately we have 455 00:23:06,090 --> 00:23:03,670 a mystical experience coming up a word 456 00:23:08,010 --> 00:23:06,100 from our sponsors so when we come back 457 00:23:10,530 --> 00:23:08,020 we'll continue our conversation will 458 00:23:20,250 --> 00:23:10,540 bring Reverend Shawn up next on exploit 459 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:24,400 now back to exploring the bazaar with 460 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:26,990 two of the most electrifying researchers 461 00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:30,290 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 462 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:36,380 Lee and Taylor Swift's and welcome back 463 00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:38,930 to exploring the bazaar and I just want 464 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:41,030 to thank all of our listeners out there 465 00:23:47,890 --> 00:23:45,770 who are spending their time with us 466 00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,900 tonight really appreciate it you know 467 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:50,000 friends like ronica thanks for listening 468 00:23:55,930 --> 00:23:52,490 to Ron okay and so now we're gonna bring 469 00:23:58,030 --> 00:23:55,940 in Reverend Shawn and thanks Shawn for 470 00:24:01,450 --> 00:23:58,040 being with us tonight I know you have a 471 00:24:03,940 --> 00:24:01,460 busy schedule and we appreciate that you 472 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:03,950 took your time to be with us tonight no 473 00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,710 I'm the one that wants to thank you let 474 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:09,200 me start by saying breaking news this 475 00:24:16,330 --> 00:24:13,540 just in the rev has officially got his 476 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:16,340 exploring the bizarre cherry broken and 477 00:24:48,340 --> 00:24:25,490 I am now officially bizarre first time 478 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:48,350 on TV I'm excited at this point I'm just 479 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:51,260 gonna let it go I just I just want to 480 00:24:56,350 --> 00:24:53,330 say that I promise it will be gentle 481 00:24:58,930 --> 00:24:56,360 for the rest but I do have a serious 482 00:25:01,030 --> 00:24:58,940 note I want to tell you guys we haven't 483 00:25:04,450 --> 00:25:01,040 spoke to one another since the both of 484 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:04,460 you were on my show and mr. Roberts it's 485 00:25:10,270 --> 00:25:06,050 a pleasure to meet you for the first 486 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:10,280 time for nothing but good things you got 487 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:11,810 it I've heard nothing but great things 488 00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:13,520 about your brother and I just want you 489 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:16,880 all to know seriously I love you all and 490 00:25:21,790 --> 00:25:19,850 I pray that the Holy Spirit comes into 491 00:25:24,370 --> 00:25:21,800 all of your lives this Christmas season 492 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:24,380 and for all my Jewish friends out there 493 00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:26,730 a very Happy Hanukkah 494 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:29,100 and please everybody don't forget what 495 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:33,590 this time of the season really means and 496 00:25:41,180 --> 00:25:37,710 don't forget that Satan doesn't take 497 00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:41,190 vacations so this time of year he's more 498 00:25:48,650 --> 00:25:46,260 active than ever and just really if 499 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:48,660 you're in this field the same field I'm 500 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:51,510 an and you gentlemen to you have to 501 00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:53,610 really keep eyes in the back of your 502 00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:57,000 head and your head on a swivel when it 503 00:26:02,060 --> 00:25:58,260 comes to this time of the year because 504 00:26:09,790 --> 00:26:02,070 we're all targets is that because we get 505 00:26:13,460 --> 00:26:09,800 the big credit card yeah bat to the 506 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,470 Satan make us go out and buy that all 507 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:15,600 those lavish new gifts that Tim is going 508 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:26,670 to send me and your bio that says that 509 00:26:35,060 --> 00:26:29,030 you're an ordained spiritual warfare 510 00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:35,070 minister okay now how how do you get 511 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,590 that how do you get that title now I 512 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,080 know that you know regular listeners to 513 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:42,240 your show probably already know this but 514 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:44,850 you know tell us about yourself I mean 515 00:26:48,890 --> 00:26:46,860 we know what got you started in this I 516 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:48,900 mean you know the did you you don't have 517 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:50,970 weird things happened to you when you 518 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:54,750 were a kid or what I'm gonna give you 519 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:57,270 the abridged version because the story 520 00:27:01,270 --> 00:26:58,890 would take the rest of the show and I 521 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:01,280 don't want to be rude to mr. Roberts or 522 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:03,690 either of the Tim's I want to give 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:10,290 everybody yeah let's say I was ordained 524 00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:14,010 in my mother's womb when I was created 525 00:27:20,750 --> 00:27:17,040 to do this and I got the speech from my 526 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:20,760 mother that being the case when I was 527 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:23,790 around 10 years old and so been a 528 00:27:30,290 --> 00:27:26,730 Ghostbuster most of my life but only 529 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:30,300 became ordained shortly after I met fell 530 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:32,970 in love with my wife and we got married 531 00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:37,440 and became a team oddly enough it wasn't 532 00:27:40,590 --> 00:27:39,500 until shortly after that 533 00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:40,600 and she's a near-death experience 534 00:27:47,230 --> 00:27:45,080 survivor twice over three or four times 535 00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:47,240 if you count surviving an extreme 536 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,100 demonic attack which left her with three 537 00:27:56,289 --> 00:27:51,200 very rare forms of cancer which we're 538 00:27:59,980 --> 00:27:56,299 still battling but I didn't be go on the 539 00:28:01,870 --> 00:27:59,990 path to become ordained until we ran 540 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:01,880 into our first demonic case which was a 541 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:05,450 few years back so how that happens was I 542 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:09,830 was reached out to by my mentor at the 543 00:28:14,820 --> 00:28:11,990 time she went on to become my mentor 544 00:28:17,230 --> 00:28:14,830 deacon Katie McDonald first woman 545 00:28:20,830 --> 00:28:17,240 Exorcist to be ordained deacon in the 546 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:20,840 Catholic Church since 1080 and her 547 00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:23,510 mentor and good friend dr. Reverend bill 548 00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:26,270 Jordan they at the time had founded the 549 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:28,400 American Association of exorcists and 550 00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,570 agape Christian University and a and E 551 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:34,880 was going to do a television show a 552 00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:37,090 reality 553 00:28:44,049 --> 00:28:40,400 paranormal television show about Katie 554 00:28:47,049 --> 00:28:44,059 called American Exorcist Katie McDonald 555 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:47,059 and I was on her team at the time so I 556 00:28:52,529 --> 00:28:48,710 was going to be a part of that whole 557 00:28:55,529 --> 00:28:52,539 thing long story short the you know 558 00:28:59,289 --> 00:28:55,539 powers beyond our control 559 00:29:01,799 --> 00:28:59,299 really the attacks became on most of the 560 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:01,809 team members became just relentless and 561 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:05,330 ultimately resulted in us not doing the 562 00:29:10,270 --> 00:29:08,690 show but that got me on the path to 563 00:29:13,779 --> 00:29:10,280 becoming ordained through those two 564 00:29:17,789 --> 00:29:13,789 organizations and I was honored last 565 00:29:22,649 --> 00:29:17,799 year with a no expiration date lifelong 566 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:22,659 ordination to advanced practiced 567 00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:25,850 ordained exorcism deliverance minister 568 00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:30,020 and so I'm very proud of that and I just 569 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:32,900 continue on agape Team USA is still 570 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:35,840 together and we still work cases and my 571 00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:37,940 wife and I are still ghosts be gone biz 572 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:42,190 the ministry and we still work cases and 573 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:46,480 let's let's get down to brass tacks here 574 00:29:52,910 --> 00:29:49,490 Sean or are you saying that all this 575 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:52,920 phenomena is of the devil is demonic 576 00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:56,520 no not at all but it seems to be in my 577 00:30:01,370 --> 00:29:59,820 case ever since I got on this path that 578 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:01,380 that's the only cases that come across 579 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:04,530 my desk so I seem to be working a lot of 580 00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:06,360 those cases and they're always on a rise 581 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:09,750 this time of year and I refer a lot of 582 00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:12,600 just the regular old Uncle Tom and Aunt 583 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:15,840 Betty ghosts that are hanging around the 584 00:30:19,580 --> 00:30:17,610 home wanting to watch over the family 585 00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:19,590 and watch over the home and not cross 586 00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:21,840 over I do refer a lot of those cases 587 00:30:28,460 --> 00:30:25,020 over to other teams here locally yeah 588 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:28,470 because I'm just so I'm in over my head 589 00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:30,330 actually to be honest with you I'm doing 590 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:32,700 more counseling now than anything 591 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:34,590 because I just physically cannot get out 592 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:37,830 there and work every case but well why 593 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:39,090 don't you tell why don't you tell us 594 00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:42,390 about the most how do i phrase this 595 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:45,240 demonic incident that you were ever 596 00:30:52,510 --> 00:30:48,210 involved in the one that that maybe if 597 00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:52,520 Satan came closest to to winning out 598 00:31:01,370 --> 00:30:55,020 well I would have to definitely at one 599 00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:01,380 put the case we worked where the entity 600 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:03,360 we were battling at my clients home 601 00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,510 followed my wife and I home and it took 602 00:31:12,050 --> 00:31:08,640 residents up in our house for about six 603 00:31:14,420 --> 00:31:12,060 eight weeks and it was a battle to 604 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:14,430 finally get it to move on its way but I 605 00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:18,480 took about a year break from the 606 00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:21,390 ministry work because the attack on us 607 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:24,360 and it's stayin in our home resulted in 608 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:28,650 my wife becoming very ill and so I put 609 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:30,210 everything on the back burner and spent 610 00:31:37,250 --> 00:31:34,380 two years easy away from the ministry 611 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:37,260 work just trying to help my wife to keep 612 00:31:43,550 --> 00:31:40,740 her from succumbing to this and like I 613 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:43,560 said we're still on that battle but that 614 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:45,210 was a that was a terrible time this 615 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:46,980 thing living in our home with us and 616 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:50,550 then number two I would have to say the 617 00:31:57,530 --> 00:31:53,970 case I worked where I was actually it 618 00:32:01,640 --> 00:31:57,540 violently attacked myself that led to me 619 00:32:04,670 --> 00:32:01,650 taking another several month break from 620 00:32:05,659 --> 00:32:04,680 the field and I was actually gonna throw 621 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:05,669 that my hat in 622 00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:08,609 and call it quits at the time but in the 623 00:32:14,209 --> 00:32:11,849 very next case after that I had a vision 624 00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:14,219 of the holy spirit at that case and then 625 00:32:19,609 --> 00:32:16,979 the very next case after that was an 626 00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:19,619 exorcism case and during the exorcism I 627 00:32:27,589 --> 00:32:23,609 actually had a vision of Jesus Christ on 628 00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:27,599 the cross which was life-changing and so 629 00:32:33,049 --> 00:32:30,419 I jumped back into the arena and I'm 630 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,059 going strong as ever and I know this was 631 00:32:37,399 --> 00:32:35,039 my calling I always knew it was my 632 00:32:39,739 --> 00:32:37,409 calling because all my life my mother 633 00:32:42,649 --> 00:32:39,749 told me I would do something wonderful 634 00:32:45,379 --> 00:32:42,659 for Christ one day but she didn't 635 00:32:47,959 --> 00:32:45,389 specify what that would be and so I 636 00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,969 realize now that that's what that was 637 00:32:51,949 --> 00:32:49,919 all about and what I'm doing right now 638 00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:51,959 and where I'm at right now is exactly 639 00:33:01,489 --> 00:32:56,849 where I'm supposed to be so now what's 640 00:33:03,769 --> 00:33:01,499 the what's the difference yeah I see or 641 00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:03,779 you know I've seen a lot of these you 642 00:33:07,489 --> 00:33:05,399 know like ghost hunters and Ghost 643 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:07,499 Busters and people like that they'll go 644 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,049 into you know say like a house where 645 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,399 somebody's been complaining about say 646 00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:16,320 like you pulled a guy's phenomenon 647 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:17,399 though you know they'll be in the house 648 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:18,690 for like five minutes and just 649 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:20,190 immediately declare oh yeah you've got 650 00:33:24,979 --> 00:33:21,690 demons in or in turn around here and 651 00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:24,989 scare the Deaf out of everybody okay so 652 00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:29,609 what what's the difference between like 653 00:33:34,339 --> 00:33:32,279 you said before you know like just a 654 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:34,349 house that seems to have just kind of 655 00:33:37,819 --> 00:33:36,450 more of a or common yeah and it's kind 656 00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:37,829 of funny to say this common everyday 657 00:33:44,259 --> 00:33:41,070 haunting or poltergeist activity or a 658 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:44,269 place that really has something actually 659 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:48,409 sinister going on well the difference is 660 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:51,089 you can't believe anything you see on TV 661 00:33:57,859 --> 00:33:55,049 I used to give tours also paranormal 662 00:34:00,589 --> 00:33:57,869 tours of a cemetery and haunted home 663 00:34:02,239 --> 00:34:00,599 adjacent to the property and so many 664 00:34:04,609 --> 00:34:02,249 times people would come on the tour and 665 00:34:07,729 --> 00:34:04,619 expect to see a young girl strapped to a 666 00:34:10,009 --> 00:34:07,739 bed vomiting up green slime all over the 667 00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:10,019 place and her head spinning around she's 668 00:34:17,149 --> 00:34:14,700 she's here right now you know but it 669 00:34:18,660 --> 00:34:17,159 just doesn't happen that way the the 670 00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:18,670 demonic attack is very 671 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:22,390 and it can come on very subtly and it 672 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:23,890 could be years before the family 673 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:27,280 realizes that the infestation and the 674 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:30,790 oppression is is is as bad as it is and 675 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:34,510 god forbid someone is possessed or worse 676 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:37,210 than that completely gone over demonic 677 00:34:41,460 --> 00:34:39,610 integration and they're not even there 678 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,470 anymore the vessel has been completely 679 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:44,320 taken over by the entity um then you 680 00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:46,720 just have like I said mom or pop ghost 681 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:49,240 that just loved life so much and love 682 00:34:54,330 --> 00:34:52,690 their family so much and loved the their 683 00:34:56,970 --> 00:34:54,340 home so much they don't want to move on 684 00:34:59,640 --> 00:34:56,980 they want to watch over things well I 685 00:35:03,000 --> 00:34:59,650 hate to be I hate to be cynical here but 686 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:03,010 I am very cynical when it comes to Satan 687 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:07,450 to be honest with you why would why 688 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:10,990 would Satan want to bother with you to 689 00:35:15,630 --> 00:35:13,330 be honest with you I mean I'm sure he's 690 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:15,640 got much more important things to do 691 00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:18,310 like hanging out in the Oval Office and 692 00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:22,380 you know maybe going sitting on the 693 00:35:28,590 --> 00:35:25,350 hopefully sitting on the the head of a 694 00:35:31,860 --> 00:35:28,600 you know a missile over there in North 695 00:35:32,580 --> 00:35:31,870 Korea or something why would he want to 696 00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:32,590 attack it 697 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:35,350 you know just average folk who ain't 698 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:38,680 done him any harm well let's let's 699 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:43,090 address exactly him for a second Satan 700 00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:49,990 is a psychopathic murderer who sat on 701 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:53,140 the throne next to his creator but you 702 00:35:58,410 --> 00:35:56,530 know your your your I've always said 703 00:36:00,890 --> 00:35:58,420 that you get one side of the story I've 704 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:00,900 had a few friends in my life who were 705 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:04,030 Luciferians right and people equate that 706 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:06,910 to being Satanists and it isn't really I 707 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:09,370 mean we hear one side of the story which 708 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:12,130 is what the Bible it tells you you know 709 00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:13,750 how do we you know it's it's like 710 00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:17,080 listening to MSNBC and listening to Fox 711 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:19,600 News you get you've got to totally 712 00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,570 conflicting your stories there I mean 713 00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:24,640 how can you say are you saying that 714 00:36:31,410 --> 00:36:26,590 everything that happens in the in the 715 00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:31,420 world we can blame on on Satan I mean if 716 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:32,440 a guy 717 00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:35,410 breaks into your house and and robbed 718 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:38,230 you and injures your your wife or your 719 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:41,530 family member or holds up the local deli 720 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:44,050 is it because the Satan is standing 721 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:46,630 behind him with a pitchfork no 722 00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:50,260 absolutely not but he is at the root of 723 00:36:58,530 --> 00:36:54,700 all evil and so yes in a sense he does 724 00:37:01,319 --> 00:36:58,540 oversee all evil and it does stem it's 725 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:01,329 seeded with him and then branches out 726 00:37:09,089 --> 00:37:05,050 and mainly stems from him and his fallen 727 00:37:15,059 --> 00:37:09,099 angels and his legion and so I have to 728 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:15,069 say most evil is overseen by him but 729 00:37:21,329 --> 00:37:19,359 it's been my experience that most people 730 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:21,339 that are coming to me needing help 731 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:24,940 they've done something to make the 732 00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:26,770 demons that are infesting their home 733 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:29,230 feel like they have been invited and 734 00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:32,650 have permission to be there and that 735 00:37:36,990 --> 00:37:34,060 makes a lot of people upset when I 736 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:37,000 confront them with that and sometimes it 737 00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:41,530 takes days weeks of talking and 738 00:37:47,819 --> 00:37:46,030 investigating and going through a lot of 739 00:37:51,210 --> 00:37:47,829 situations with them before they realize 740 00:37:54,329 --> 00:37:51,220 oh yeah we did do that on that one day 741 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:54,339 and then I remember things got started 742 00:38:01,230 --> 00:37:56,650 to get ugly after that something they 743 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:01,240 did invited these things in and made 744 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:02,770 them feel they have permission to be 745 00:38:08,339 --> 00:38:05,410 there and so to turn that completely 746 00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:08,349 around is a very hard thing to do it's 747 00:38:12,329 --> 00:38:10,660 not a quick fix and people get upset at 748 00:38:14,730 --> 00:38:12,339 me all the time you can't just come in 749 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:14,740 here and bless my home and make them go 750 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:17,200 away it doesn't work that way and I've 751 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:20,230 had people from every walk in every 752 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:23,380 religious belief system come to me for 753 00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:26,040 help at one time or another including 754 00:38:32,819 --> 00:38:29,020 atheists that didn't believe these 755 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:32,829 things exist until they're living the 756 00:38:41,099 --> 00:38:39,310 horror and so it's it's tough I have to 757 00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,109 cut a lot of people loose that I know I 758 00:38:45,089 --> 00:38:43,359 just it's like that movie where the 759 00:38:46,769 --> 00:38:45,099 gentleman says help me help you 760 00:38:49,529 --> 00:38:46,779 if they have to 761 00:38:52,169 --> 00:38:49,539 be willing to help me help them and do 762 00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:52,179 what I need from them to turn the 763 00:38:58,799 --> 00:38:55,630 situation around but it's it's lots of 764 00:39:00,659 --> 00:38:58,809 times I jump in there raging rapids with 765 00:39:02,459 --> 00:39:00,669 them and they don't want me to just grab 766 00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:02,469 ahold of them and swim to safety they 767 00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:04,390 want to flail and grab ahold of me and 768 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:07,150 take me down under with them and I have 769 00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:10,089 to at times cut people loose which is 770 00:39:16,529 --> 00:39:12,069 the heartbreaking part of of what I do 771 00:39:19,409 --> 00:39:16,539 okay well can you uh can you give give 772 00:39:21,899 --> 00:39:19,419 us an example maybe of a case that you 773 00:39:26,999 --> 00:39:21,909 have worked on where people have 774 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:27,009 inverted you know created this kind of 775 00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:33,249 situation in their house well a lot of 776 00:39:40,259 --> 00:39:37,569 people are going to find this extremely 777 00:39:43,499 --> 00:39:40,269 odd but most of my clients are Ghost 778 00:39:45,659 --> 00:39:43,509 Busters and ghost hunters they are in 779 00:39:48,929 --> 00:39:45,669 the wrong place at the wrong time and 780 00:39:52,349 --> 00:39:48,939 not properly trained and I've had cases 781 00:39:54,689 --> 00:39:52,359 come across my desk where they've played 782 00:39:56,969 --> 00:39:54,699 occult games to try to conjure something 783 00:40:00,149 --> 00:39:56,979 up so they have something to investigate 784 00:40:01,589 --> 00:40:00,159 and something to battle or the Ouija 785 00:40:04,289 --> 00:40:01,599 board I'm not a big fan of the Ouija 786 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:04,299 board I have close friends that are 787 00:40:08,939 --> 00:40:07,089 Ouija board fanatics but they're 788 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:08,949 intelligent people and they know the 789 00:40:13,409 --> 00:40:10,630 history behind the Ouija board and they 790 00:40:16,439 --> 00:40:13,419 know how to properly use them as a tool 791 00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:16,449 and and that's their belief system and 792 00:40:20,699 --> 00:40:18,489 how they use it and I don't judge 793 00:40:22,709 --> 00:40:20,709 anybody but I know a lot of people that 794 00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:22,719 have misused to that and invited the 795 00:40:27,089 --> 00:40:25,390 wrong things into their homes and into 796 00:40:29,099 --> 00:40:27,099 their lives and once they did you know 797 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:29,109 on the other hand millions of people 798 00:40:33,779 --> 00:40:31,089 have used the Ouija board and it hasn't 799 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:33,789 done anything and and I've had a couple 800 00:40:38,839 --> 00:40:35,380 of occasions where I've used the Ouija 801 00:40:42,149 --> 00:40:38,849 board and I got I actually got some 802 00:40:45,899 --> 00:40:42,159 accurate information and I don't think 803 00:40:48,029 --> 00:40:45,909 that the Satan or any of his demons 804 00:40:50,339 --> 00:40:48,039 we're sitting there you know moving the 805 00:40:53,669 --> 00:40:50,349 planchette across the the board you know 806 00:40:56,609 --> 00:40:53,679 I mean it just doesn't happen that way 807 00:40:59,819 --> 00:40:56,619 you know do you culture sit like UFOs 808 00:41:00,690 --> 00:40:59,829 it's good and it it's whatever you 809 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:00,700 interpret it 810 00:41:05,250 --> 00:41:03,369 to be and I do believe when you talk 811 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:05,260 about all this negativity you invite 812 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:08,530 negativity in it's like you know a demon 813 00:41:13,319 --> 00:41:11,290 or or or Dracula you know at your window 814 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:13,329 or your door if he asked to come into 815 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,800 your house or you talked about it all 816 00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,480 the time that's that's what you tend to 817 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:18,640 get yeah absolutely 818 00:41:24,990 --> 00:41:23,290 and so that's why I try not to even in 819 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:25,000 our our program I mean we've talked 820 00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:26,560 about some things that are negative we 821 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:30,280 we tried to take a a positive approach 822 00:41:35,609 --> 00:41:33,880 to to all of this now we had a just 823 00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:35,619 published a book by Reverend Barry 824 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:39,849 downing on a UFOs in the Bible and he 825 00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:41,650 sees a lot of things that took place in 826 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:44,430 the old and new Testament 827 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:47,770 extraterrestrials are angelic he doesn't 828 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:51,040 see anything really demon demonic about 829 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:54,010 UFOs I mean are you on that side of the 830 00:42:00,510 --> 00:41:57,310 fences is well that the UFOs are piloted 831 00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:00,520 by negative forces I think I think some 832 00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:03,070 are let me start by saying I'm not a big 833 00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:06,670 UFO guy I do believe in other life-forms 834 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:11,800 out there that are visiting earth but I 835 00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:13,990 don't believe it all is negative but I 836 00:42:18,540 --> 00:42:16,089 do believe you know there is a there is 837 00:42:20,130 --> 00:42:18,550 a movie that's going to be playing in 838 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:20,140 the theaters I think in five hundred 839 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:23,260 theaters is it maybe in a couple of 840 00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:26,730 weeks that is being sponsored by some 841 00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:30,670 evangelical group and I guess they have 842 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:33,369 some money to rent five hundred theaters 843 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:36,880 it's called a form walling and you know 844 00:42:41,790 --> 00:42:38,470 I heard an interview that the fella did 845 00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:41,800 the other day and you know he sees all 846 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:44,200 of this well that seems to be most of 847 00:42:49,170 --> 00:42:46,690 the the Christian approach it to this is 848 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,180 if any of this existed well it has to be 849 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:51,760 Satan and I don't know I mean some of it 850 00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:53,530 might be satanic we've done a couple of 851 00:42:58,410 --> 00:42:55,990 books you know round trip to hell on a 852 00:43:00,900 --> 00:42:58,420 flying saucer and evil empire the ETS 853 00:43:03,750 --> 00:43:00,910 and all the rest Rios I mean there is 854 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:03,760 without a doubt some negativity in this 855 00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:06,490 but it's also the way you interpret it I 856 00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:08,980 mean there are there are people who have 857 00:43:14,099 --> 00:43:12,190 experiences and they are bought some 858 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:14,109 great cosmic whiz 859 00:43:18,359 --> 00:43:16,480 and some people you know even the 860 00:43:21,269 --> 00:43:18,369 tight-ass spiritual experiences and of 861 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:21,279 course you know even gone to it to 862 00:43:25,979 --> 00:43:23,650 heaven and in return I mean do you think 863 00:43:29,309 --> 00:43:25,989 that near-death experiences or are they 864 00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:29,319 what they purport to be talking to my 865 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,230 wife I would have to say yes I know that 866 00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,960 she doesn't remember having the 867 00:43:42,029 --> 00:43:37,359 sensitivity to spirit that she had 868 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:42,039 before having her near-death experience 869 00:43:45,779 --> 00:43:43,900 you know so what does that what does 870 00:43:47,789 --> 00:43:45,789 that mean exactly since she heard the 871 00:43:50,249 --> 00:43:47,799 spirit well she's like I call her my 872 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:50,259 human dowsing rods I can't really work a 873 00:43:55,019 --> 00:43:52,690 case without her because she can walk 874 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:55,029 into a place and look me in the eyes and 875 00:43:59,249 --> 00:43:57,130 say you know there's we can hang out for 876 00:44:01,739 --> 00:43:59,259 a little bit honey if you want but it's 877 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:01,749 very quiet there's not gonna be much 878 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:04,329 going on tonight not uh she's not saying 879 00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:06,730 that there's nothing there but you know 880 00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:07,989 it's going not going to be very 881 00:44:13,019 --> 00:44:09,940 productive evening and then we can walk 882 00:44:16,499 --> 00:44:13,029 in places and she can just give me the 883 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:16,509 look and say I feel like I'm walking in 884 00:44:21,509 --> 00:44:19,450 soup yeah you know but you don't think 885 00:44:23,099 --> 00:44:21,519 that they're showing their negativity 886 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:23,109 because you're looking at this in a 887 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:27,849 negative way I think it isn't it isn't 888 00:44:32,940 --> 00:44:30,730 it like if there are forces out there 889 00:44:35,130 --> 00:44:32,950 it'll say hey let's go and battle this 890 00:44:38,910 --> 00:44:35,140 guy it'll give us something to do 891 00:44:41,630 --> 00:44:38,920 whereas if I went into a room you know I 892 00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:41,640 wouldn't have the same experiences and 893 00:44:48,089 --> 00:44:44,859 we've had our friend at Paulino on many 894 00:44:50,609 --> 00:44:48,099 times who it says that you can do you 895 00:44:53,279 --> 00:44:50,619 know as far as exorcism goes you can do 896 00:44:54,989 --> 00:44:53,289 just as much you know with the reading 897 00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:54,999 your jokes out of a book if you cannot 898 00:44:59,970 --> 00:44:57,609 in the Bible in fact the more you tried 899 00:45:01,950 --> 00:44:59,980 to confront the the so-called the demon 900 00:45:04,739 --> 00:45:01,960 our Satan the more they want to strike 901 00:45:06,569 --> 00:45:04,749 back at you I agree a hundred percent I 902 00:45:09,029 --> 00:45:06,579 think that's why I don't believe in 903 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:09,039 religious provocation because I I know 904 00:45:15,749 --> 00:45:11,650 that just my wife and I showing up at 905 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:15,759 cases if it's truly a demonic if there 906 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:17,710 is truly demonic presence there that us 907 00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:20,170 just being there's provocation enough 908 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:23,680 and that's just part of it my 909 00:45:31,180 --> 00:45:26,810 discernment is that I can see 910 00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:31,190 and feel them so I thought what does 911 00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:35,390 what does a demon look like in the true 912 00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:38,630 form I don't know I can tell you how 913 00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:41,000 they've appeared to me they've appeared 914 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:46,790 to me as solid three-dimensional solid 915 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:51,010 black figures they've appeared to me as 916 00:45:59,440 --> 00:45:57,050 black or gray tornados in a room small 917 00:46:02,680 --> 00:45:59,450 tornadoes they've appeared to me as 918 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:02,690 family members of clients that I'm there 919 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,570 at their home working the case and I'll 920 00:46:10,090 --> 00:46:07,040 walk into a room and there's a family 921 00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:10,100 member there then I realized no the 922 00:46:16,170 --> 00:46:12,230 whole family is on the other side of the 923 00:46:20,020 --> 00:46:16,180 home and then have that doppelganger 924 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:20,030 apparition turn into one time what I can 925 00:46:25,210 --> 00:46:39,000 feral cat pig-like creature that land I 926 00:46:46,060 --> 00:46:43,600 get a lot of demon cases too and a lot 927 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:46,070 of the cases that the occupants tell me 928 00:46:51,790 --> 00:46:49,490 that either the demon looks beautiful 929 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:51,800 like a beautiful woman or a beautiful 930 00:46:59,740 --> 00:46:56,510 man or in chasing an animal shape or is 931 00:47:05,140 --> 00:46:59,750 shadowy a black mass a lot of them say a 932 00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:05,150 black mass and a lot of times too I get 933 00:47:09,550 --> 00:47:06,740 clients who ask me and they said where 934 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:09,560 do these demons come from you know where 935 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:12,770 is hell all the third stuff and I tell 936 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:15,850 them that demons could either be 937 00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:18,890 extraterrestrial or interdimensional or 938 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:19,910 both 939 00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:21,530 all right Paul could have to interrupt 940 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:25,790 you hear the voice of the announcer 941 00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:28,370 that's coming up that's right we'll be 942 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:31,550 we'll be right back after this break so 943 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:45,820 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 944 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:48,490 ride into the world of the paranormal 945 00:47:56,070 --> 00:47:51,770 strap yourself in as we traverse the 946 00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:56,080 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 947 00:48:01,570 --> 00:47:59,200 ghosts Lost Worlds 948 00:48:05,410 --> 00:48:01,580 cryptozoology as well as other 949 00:48:09,820 --> 00:48:05,420 dimensions it's time to take back the 950 00:48:13,060 --> 00:48:09,830 night last night now your electrifying 951 00:48:18,220 --> 00:48:13,070 hosts of exploring the bizarre Timothy 952 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:18,230 Begley and team sports alright here we 953 00:48:26,620 --> 00:48:20,330 are back again second hour of exploring 954 00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:26,630 the bizarre and I know that Paul we want 955 00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:28,160 to talk about yeah during the break you 956 00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:31,550 were talking about orbs and taking 957 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:34,070 pictures of wharves now I know that's 958 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:35,930 kind of a controversial subject because 959 00:48:39,940 --> 00:48:37,850 a lot of people think that especially 960 00:48:42,490 --> 00:48:39,950 now that everybody's using digital 961 00:48:47,099 --> 00:48:42,500 cameras that that orbs are basically 962 00:48:51,010 --> 00:48:47,109 just an artifact of dust and insects on 963 00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:51,020 with digital cameras but you've had some 964 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:54,710 different experiences oh yeah sure yeah 965 00:48:59,020 --> 00:48:56,510 orbs could be almost anything to be 966 00:49:03,460 --> 00:48:59,030 skinned place it could be dust it could 967 00:49:06,580 --> 00:49:03,470 be water you know dew drops and whatever 968 00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:06,590 there are light reflections but what 969 00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:11,600 I've done yes I asked well let me tell 970 00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:13,550 you about one case okay we had this case 971 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:16,400 then it was the entity was named Emily 972 00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:20,090 and Emily was known to drain energy from 973 00:49:24,130 --> 00:49:23,150 the occupants and so one of my 974 00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:24,140 investigators 975 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:26,950 I have to sit down on the couch just 976 00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:30,770 because my energy is just gone she goes 977 00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,369 I think Emily is draining my energy and 978 00:49:38,170 --> 00:49:35,359 I go hmm 979 00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:38,180 and this is when I first started it I 980 00:49:43,330 --> 00:49:41,270 said okay Emily and I I had two other 981 00:49:46,510 --> 00:49:43,340 investigators with cameras and I said 982 00:49:49,780 --> 00:49:46,520 we're gonna snap a photo after I talk to 983 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:49,790 Emily I say Emily if you're listening to 984 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:49,970 me 985 00:49:58,290 --> 00:49:54,850 I want you to kiss so so on the lips 986 00:50:03,600 --> 00:49:58,300 so we snap a photo that three cameras 987 00:50:07,740 --> 00:50:03,610 and all three cameras showed an orb on 988 00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:07,750 his mouth hmm I said what the heck I 989 00:50:12,270 --> 00:50:09,670 mean you're just blew me away 990 00:50:14,490 --> 00:50:12,280 and I said this shows intelligent woman 991 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:14,500 I said we got a shot try it again 992 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:17,280 I said Emily if you're listening to me 993 00:50:25,590 --> 00:50:22,330 appear by his head we snap a photo and 994 00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:25,600 sure enough there's this orb right next 995 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:29,860 to his head and we go okay Emily if 996 00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:32,650 you're listening to me again okay I want 997 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:35,680 you to sit on his lap we snap photo 998 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:39,520 three photos and there's an oar hovering 999 00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:42,850 over his lap that showed intelligent 1000 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:46,020 lumen so what I do now is when I go on 1001 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:49,330 investigations I look for intelligent 1002 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:51,130 Luis so there's so Allah says oh polygon 1003 00:50:55,290 --> 00:50:51,970 Fisher warp 1004 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:55,300 well whoopee whoopee do okay now show me 1005 00:51:00,690 --> 00:50:58,330 this has intelligent movement place your 1006 00:51:03,990 --> 00:51:00,700 hand up against the wall and tell that 1007 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:04,000 entity to appear by your hand and 1008 00:51:09,690 --> 00:51:07,690 sometimes sure enough the orb is right 1009 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:09,700 next to the person's hand and I have 1010 00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:13,450 like several pictures of where we have 1011 00:51:20,580 --> 00:51:17,260 the orb next to the hand or what 1012 00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:20,590 wherever we tell it to be at so we 1013 00:51:25,230 --> 00:51:23,250 always look for intelligent movement and 1014 00:51:30,690 --> 00:51:25,240 something like that we deem as 1015 00:51:33,150 --> 00:51:30,700 paranormal hmm I'm interested in you 1016 00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:33,160 were talking about that the person 1017 00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:35,860 involved felt like that the entity Emily 1018 00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:39,280 was draining energy from him do you 1019 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:43,470 think that that he was subconsciously 1020 00:51:48,450 --> 00:51:46,630 allowing this to happen that there is 1021 00:51:50,610 --> 00:51:48,460 some kind of almost like a you know like 1022 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:50,620 not symbiosis but almost like a 1023 00:51:55,770 --> 00:51:53,650 parasitical type situation going on but 1024 00:51:58,770 --> 00:51:55,780 he was actually allowing it to happen 1025 00:52:02,550 --> 00:51:58,780 but not you know realizing it 1026 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:02,560 consciously right I believe like he was 1027 00:52:08,610 --> 00:52:06,850 our weak link so it's like the the chain 1028 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:08,620 fence it's like 1029 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:11,410 he was the opening in that fence and she 1030 00:52:18,830 --> 00:52:14,650 got through it and and she started 1031 00:52:22,350 --> 00:52:18,840 attacking him because he was yeah well 1032 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:22,360 he had some issues going on at home so 1033 00:52:27,930 --> 00:52:25,570 he was in already in a bummer mood so 1034 00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:27,940 she probably fed into that and start 1035 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:30,510 draining his energy 1036 00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:33,690 no I've I've heard people you know a 1037 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:38,020 comment before that people people like 1038 00:52:44,250 --> 00:52:41,410 that you know their their aura is broken 1039 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:44,260 and there are you know like weak points 1040 00:52:52,140 --> 00:52:47,170 that they have that allow these entities 1041 00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:52,150 to you know attach themselves become you 1042 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:54,550 know like an obsessive part of them or 1043 00:53:03,120 --> 00:52:56,170 you know like you said drain their 1044 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,130 energy right and in one of the things I 1045 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,440 like bringing my wife to like when I 1046 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:06,880 bring her to the investigation 1047 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:11,410 sometimes her psychic abilities is that 1048 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:14,530 all-time high sometimes it's not and 1049 00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:15,910 she'll just look in the issue as well 1050 00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:18,820 Paul my sinuses are bothering me and I'm 1051 00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:21,400 just not picking up on anything it just 1052 00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:24,550 happens here and they're not all the 1053 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:28,000 time and what I really like is that and 1054 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:30,370 I tell her I use you as a tool 1055 00:53:36,090 --> 00:53:32,290 if you tell me there's a ghost by the 1056 00:53:38,250 --> 00:53:36,100 tree well let's prove it okay this up to 1057 00:53:40,770 --> 00:53:38,260 the investigators try to get an EVP by 1058 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:40,780 the tree or try to get an anomaly in 1059 00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:45,460 their photograph by that tree and notice 1060 00:53:50,430 --> 00:53:47,260 there was one time where she was walking 1061 00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:50,440 into the house and it doesn't the entity 1062 00:53:56,310 --> 00:53:54,430 something like they they draining kind 1063 00:54:00,840 --> 00:53:56,320 of energy from her she's pretty strong 1064 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:00,850 in that part in that department and she 1065 00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:03,250 walked into this one house and she says 1066 00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:05,740 I feel something on this chair I said 1067 00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,020 okay you know so my investigator starts 1068 00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:10,480 snapping photos and sure enough we get 1069 00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:14,800 this huge or on the chair and then she 1070 00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:17,140 goes well is still here we take more 1071 00:54:22,590 --> 00:54:19,750 pictures in the orb the wall now it's a 1072 00:54:27,150 --> 00:54:22,600 mist a mist on the chair 1073 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:27,160 and another time we're at a house and 1074 00:54:31,290 --> 00:54:29,290 well I wasn't getting any kind of Evy 1075 00:54:34,410 --> 00:54:31,300 piece and she goes well I'm very much 1076 00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:34,420 attracted to this room this bedroom so 1077 00:54:37,740 --> 00:54:35,950 we go into the bedroom we're sitting on 1078 00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:37,750 bed and she goes 1079 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:41,260 start recording now I go why she goes 1080 00:54:45,930 --> 00:54:43,810 it's talking to me so I start recording 1081 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:45,940 and sure enough I got something like 1082 00:54:52,830 --> 00:54:49,780 five words and it's like whoa 1083 00:54:54,570 --> 00:54:52,840 you know so that's how we use a psychic 1084 00:54:56,790 --> 00:54:54,580 you know and if they can prove 1085 00:54:58,380 --> 00:54:56,800 themselves to be a real psychic and 1086 00:55:01,260 --> 00:54:58,390 that's one of the things I was impressed 1087 00:55:03,630 --> 00:55:01,270 with her and one of the things I fell in 1088 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:03,640 love with her about is that she did have 1089 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:08,530 that ability what what was it saying to 1090 00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:10,090 her what what were the words that you 1091 00:55:17,460 --> 00:55:13,780 recorded you were saying something like 1092 00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:17,470 um I'm I'm over here watching you or 1093 00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:19,630 something like that and I so it seemed 1094 00:55:24,090 --> 00:55:22,750 like this you know like a guy spirit and 1095 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:24,100 you seemed like you I guess I was 1096 00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:27,610 attracted to her felt it but uh but he 1097 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:36,780 going back to the the first part of the 1098 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:39,250 program when you were talking about your 1099 00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:47,110 your wife psychically sensing UFOs the 1100 00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:49,240 question that I've often wondered and 1101 00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:51,190 and I know that you know Tim Tim Beckley 1102 00:55:57,090 --> 00:55:52,900 and I have often speculated along these 1103 00:56:01,320 --> 00:55:57,100 lines is I mean do you think that some 1104 00:56:03,090 --> 00:56:01,330 UFOs are rather than being you know the 1105 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:03,100 traditional nuts and bolts you know 1106 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:05,890 physical a little little gray bin from 1107 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:07,750 another planet do you think that there 1108 00:56:13,950 --> 00:56:10,930 is a paranormal aspect to this phenomena 1109 00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:13,960 and and that's why a lot of people are 1110 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:16,540 able to you know psychically sense them 1111 00:56:22,580 --> 00:56:19,690 or you know there is there seemed to be 1112 00:56:27,150 --> 00:56:22,590 some kind of paranormal connection 1113 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:27,160 between UFOs and a lot of people 1114 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:29,530 why I think my wife has a paranormal 1115 00:56:37,740 --> 00:56:32,170 technician in UFOs I think she has that 1116 00:56:41,970 --> 00:56:37,750 ability to uncloak UFOs with her mind or 1117 00:56:44,610 --> 00:56:41,980 whatever and it's because she told me 1118 00:56:47,790 --> 00:56:44,620 when I first met her she goes I was 1119 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:47,800 abducted as a young child I was abducted 1120 00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:50,290 by if she calls it the mysterious I 1121 00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:52,720 because when she looked in the sky it 1122 00:56:59,790 --> 00:56:55,660 looked like an eye but she was abducted 1123 00:57:03,150 --> 00:56:59,800 by this UFO and somehow she has this 1124 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:03,160 connection to UFOs and she has that 1125 00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:07,930 ability to and collect them and or sense 1126 00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:10,780 them because when she planning out the 1127 00:57:16,250 --> 00:57:13,060 cube to me and she pointing out this 1128 00:57:19,020 --> 00:57:16,260 thing that looked like a rocket ship I 1129 00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:19,030 don't believe they were cloaked but she 1130 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:21,400 sensed it and then she was able to show 1131 00:57:29,610 --> 00:57:25,990 me and then the other ones like I wasn't 1132 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:29,620 able to see the three the one in 14 1133 00:57:35,220 --> 00:57:33,130 magazine the one in V formation I wasn't 1134 00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:35,230 able to see that with my naked eye nor 1135 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:37,030 could she see it with our naked eye 1136 00:57:43,170 --> 00:57:39,850 there's something told her to look 1137 00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:43,180 towards that that part of the sky and 1138 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:46,150 snap a photo and sure enough there it 1139 00:57:51,930 --> 00:57:48,970 was so she knows how some kind of 1140 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:51,940 psychic connection in UFOs and all of 1141 00:57:57,690 --> 00:57:54,970 the paranormal everything from Bigfoot 1142 00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,700 UFOs ghosts and everything if somehow 1143 00:58:05,510 --> 00:57:59,920 all connected because you're talking 1144 00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:05,520 about energy and I think that aliens 1145 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:09,190 they harness energy in all ways you know 1146 00:58:15,690 --> 00:58:11,770 with the ley lines with volcanoes 1147 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:15,700 because look how many UFOs are seen near 1148 00:58:20,910 --> 00:58:18,490 of a volcano or even going inside a 1149 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:20,920 volcano why because of the energy 1150 00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:23,530 they're taking pictures of what looks 1151 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:26,680 like a big old black UFO sucking the 1152 00:58:33,390 --> 00:58:29,290 energy from the Sun and leaving like a 1153 00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:33,400 big old hole in the Sun so when you're 1154 00:58:38,130 --> 00:58:35,380 dealing with energy you're dealing with 1155 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:38,140 well ghosts because they're pure energy 1156 00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:40,510 you're dealing with 1157 00:58:45,090 --> 00:58:43,180 possibly Bigfoot because you got hunters 1158 00:58:47,730 --> 00:58:45,100 who claim they shot Bigfoot and turned 1159 00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:47,740 into Sparks and that's why they can't 1160 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:49,720 capture a Bigfoot because it's better 1161 00:58:57,780 --> 00:58:52,510 dimensional it's an energy type creature 1162 00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:57,790 or an UFOs UFOs goes I think it all 1163 00:59:05,070 --> 00:59:00,880 connects and wherever you have strong 1164 00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:05,080 energy points like ancient monuments 1165 00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,870 usually are the center of different 1166 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:10,000 energy points ley lines and everything 1167 00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:13,890 else you have strong paranormal activity 1168 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:17,200 well that makes sense I mean considering 1169 00:59:23,610 --> 00:59:19,450 that I mean you know we're energy as 1170 00:59:25,770 --> 00:59:23,620 well I mean our reality is is energy so 1171 00:59:30,390 --> 00:59:25,780 I mean obviously there there has to be 1172 00:59:32,310 --> 00:59:30,400 some kind of connection you know I mean 1173 00:59:35,790 --> 00:59:32,320 we're all connected I think that that 1174 00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:35,800 has a lot to do with synchronicity and 1175 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:39,040 synchronicity events that we all 1176 00:59:43,550 --> 00:59:41,800 experience I know that's Tim Beck Lee it 1177 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:43,560 was Tim Beck Lee's favorite subjects and 1178 00:59:48,810 --> 00:59:46,180 it just it just always makes me think 1179 00:59:52,350 --> 00:59:48,820 that you know the you know our reality 1180 00:59:54,330 --> 00:59:52,360 is it's it's it's almost like a web that 1181 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:54,340 we're all connected one way or the other 1182 00:59:59,720 --> 00:59:56,260 and synchronicities is like a 1183 01:00:04,170 --> 00:59:59,730 demonstration on how we're connected I 1184 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:04,180 would say that vibration oh yeah yeah 1185 01:00:08,490 --> 01:00:06,250 vibration yeah that's it's a good and 1186 01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:08,500 you notice so many of us in this field 1187 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:13,420 we experience at all and the belief is 1188 01:00:20,450 --> 01:00:16,710 that all of us that are involved in this 1189 01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:20,460 it was meant for us to be whatever 1190 01:00:26,550 --> 01:00:24,070 branch we're in and the paranormal 1191 01:00:28,380 --> 01:00:26,560 community and what we contribute it was 1192 01:00:34,740 --> 01:00:28,390 meant for us to do this because we are 1193 01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:34,750 all vibrating at a higher vibration you 1194 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:38,830 know I I buy into it all because I find 1195 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:41,530 that very interesting that so many of us 1196 01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,250 a lot of UF ologists Ghost Hunters 1197 01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:47,440 paranormal investigator a spiritual 1198 01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:53,780 cryptozoologists guys what they all 1199 01:00:59,010 --> 01:00:56,710 experienced there after one thing but 1200 01:01:02,039 --> 01:00:59,020 they've all examine other-- have 1201 01:01:05,370 --> 01:01:02,049 experienced at all and I find that a 1202 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:05,380 very interesting a thing that that's we 1203 01:01:13,650 --> 01:01:09,609 all have in common do you think that 1204 01:01:15,690 --> 01:01:13,660 we're kind of our life is kind of 1205 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:15,700 preordained I mean that were we're 1206 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:18,450 traveling along a path that's been 1207 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:22,240 carved out for us me I'm gonna say for 1208 01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:29,170 me I believe so 100% yeah possibly but 1209 01:01:35,819 --> 01:01:31,960 for me yes I can't I can't say for you 1210 01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:35,829 guys but I know that you can look at the 1211 01:01:40,289 --> 01:01:38,440 guy's his body of work look what you 1212 01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:40,299 guys have contributed to the paranormal 1213 01:01:46,890 --> 01:01:44,609 community with all the books done 1214 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:46,900 experienced you know it's there's a 1215 01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:48,690 reason for that 1216 01:01:55,140 --> 01:01:52,480 yeah well I hope it's a positive well I 1217 01:01:58,170 --> 01:01:55,150 I you know I I guess and I look back at 1218 01:02:01,470 --> 01:01:58,180 the 200 books that we've put out or 1219 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:01,480 something and I know some people have 1220 01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,730 gotten great enjoyment out of our book 1221 01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:05,680 just on my little books on a literary 1222 01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:08,710 level and other people have you know 1223 01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,380 read our books or purchased them to to 1224 01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:14,079 further whatever in their own you know 1225 01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:16,089 the pass through enlightenment is that's 1226 01:02:21,780 --> 01:02:18,609 kind of you know where the idea of 1227 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:21,790 calling our company in our light it came 1228 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:24,730 from because we all have a light shining 1229 01:02:29,309 --> 01:02:27,040 within us that we you know that we can 1230 01:02:32,609 --> 01:02:29,319 follow through life I don't know I 1231 01:02:36,059 --> 01:02:32,619 suppose we could take a bad turn you 1232 01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:36,069 know along the the way somewhere there 1233 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:38,950 you know I take it there sure that 1234 01:02:50,970 --> 01:02:47,819 I'm on the fence with that because I had 1235 01:02:53,579 --> 01:02:50,980 know so many people that I trust and 1236 01:02:57,859 --> 01:02:53,589 believe are truly gifted as far as 1237 01:03:00,480 --> 01:02:57,869 having psychic gifts that have done 1238 01:03:02,910 --> 01:03:00,490 either they themselves have had past 1239 01:03:05,099 --> 01:03:02,920 life regressions or they can perform 1240 01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:05,109 them for you and sends you through your 1241 01:03:10,349 --> 01:03:08,020 past life regressions and some of the 1242 01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:10,359 stories and testimonies I've had from so 1243 01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:12,430 many people that that I trust and 1244 01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:14,500 believe that they're at least telling me 1245 01:03:20,370 --> 01:03:17,230 the truth about what they feel they've 1246 01:03:23,309 --> 01:03:20,380 experienced that you know I'm not gonna 1247 01:03:26,819 --> 01:03:23,319 say it's not possible I'm gonna say that 1248 01:03:28,380 --> 01:03:26,829 I'm on the fence with it and there's all 1249 01:03:31,859 --> 01:03:28,390 sort of kind of make sense though that 1250 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:31,869 that is that is what's happening over 1251 01:03:37,230 --> 01:03:35,650 and over and again to a lot of us well 1252 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:37,240 you know what it is look I'll tell you 1253 01:03:42,750 --> 01:03:39,970 about reincarnation of reincarnation is 1254 01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:42,760 from the ages 1 to 8 usually children 1255 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:44,980 have psychic abilities that's why they 1256 01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:47,500 say they have an imaginary friend so you 1257 01:03:52,589 --> 01:03:50,049 hear that story all the time and when 1258 01:03:56,940 --> 01:03:52,599 their child is born upon the world the 1259 01:04:00,690 --> 01:03:56,950 in the atmosphere are is the energy of 1260 01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:00,700 deceased people and this energy contains 1261 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:02,950 all the knowledge everything they 1262 01:04:10,049 --> 01:04:06,930 experience everything they saw and it's 1263 01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:10,059 contained in this energy of a deceased 1264 01:04:16,859 --> 01:04:13,089 person their soul their aura and it's 1265 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:16,869 floating around and some children are in 1266 01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:18,250 tune they got their little psychic 1267 01:04:23,549 --> 01:04:20,559 antennas out there they're born upon the 1268 01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:23,559 world and they download the information 1269 01:04:30,839 --> 01:04:28,329 from the energy from this soul and all 1270 01:04:35,069 --> 01:04:30,849 of a sudden hey I'm John Smith and I was 1271 01:04:39,450 --> 01:04:35,079 born in 1873 knows a blacksmith ok they 1272 01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:39,460 have now gained this information from a 1273 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:43,119 deceased person their soul because 1274 01:04:48,660 --> 01:04:46,930 energy lives forever and I believe that 1275 01:04:51,839 --> 01:04:48,670 reincarnation it's not that they're 1276 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:51,849 actually that person they just simply 1277 01:04:56,460 --> 01:04:54,490 just like a computer download the 1278 01:05:03,750 --> 01:04:56,470 information and now they have the 1279 01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:03,760 knowledge of that person who died is 1280 01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:04,470 that good 1281 01:05:11,510 --> 01:05:09,599 that no it's not that at all and if some 1282 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:11,520 people are just not intensive they may 1283 01:05:16,070 --> 01:05:13,920 download the information and they may 1284 01:05:18,290 --> 01:05:16,080 start having habits like biting their 1285 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,300 fingernails while that biting their 1286 01:05:22,070 --> 01:05:20,160 fingernails is probably because they 1287 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:22,080 downloaded some information from a 1288 01:05:30,170 --> 01:05:24,710 deceased person to get their fingernails 1289 01:05:31,580 --> 01:05:30,180 and so they gain these habits and and 1290 01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:31,590 they just don't realize it 1291 01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,540 some people are a little bit more in 1292 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:36,240 tune to it and they're able to say okay 1293 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:38,970 I was born in this town I lived with 1294 01:05:41,990 --> 01:05:39,810 this family 1295 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:42,000 and all the information that was 1296 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:44,690 processed because they downloaded the 1297 01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:49,290 energy the data from a deceased person 1298 01:05:55,210 --> 01:05:52,140 they they blocking that information from 1299 01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:55,220 their soul you know in the in our book 1300 01:06:05,089 --> 01:05:59,280 the matrix control system of philip k 1301 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:05,099 dick he talks about how he had tim like 1302 01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:08,690 total recall of not a past life but a 1303 01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:11,839 life that he was living in another 1304 01:06:17,540 --> 01:06:14,220 reality at the same time he was living 1305 01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:17,550 as philip k dick in california but he 1306 01:06:23,870 --> 01:06:21,660 remembered explicitly every he said that 1307 01:06:24,460 --> 01:06:23,880 this was a life as a was it a roman 1308 01:06:27,530 --> 01:06:24,470 soldier 1309 01:06:29,930 --> 01:06:27,540 something like that yes during the time 1310 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:29,940 of christ but it turned out he knew the 1311 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:35,010 language that was spoken at the time as 1312 01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:36,810 if he was actually living there and he 1313 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:40,440 knew he knew all the details of a living 1314 01:06:46,430 --> 01:06:43,410 in that period even though he was not a 1315 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:46,440 you know a history bob above per se he 1316 01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:48,690 was a science fiction writer but there's 1317 01:06:53,690 --> 01:06:51,180 actually a name for that tim where you 1318 01:06:56,300 --> 01:06:53,700 you have a total recall about a 1319 01:06:59,990 --> 01:06:56,310 particular subject you know without 1320 01:07:02,510 --> 01:07:00,000 really having experienced it mm-hmm 1321 01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:02,520 I can't I can't remember all I can think 1322 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:04,380 of now is eidetic memory but that's 1323 01:07:08,690 --> 01:07:06,210 that's from your own experiences what 1324 01:07:11,150 --> 01:07:08,700 you can't forget yeah well I I think 1325 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:11,160 didn't Richard that shaver had a name 1326 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:14,010 for that isn't like a rude memory or 1327 01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:15,210 racial memory 1328 01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:20,980 a versed you know and he he based that 1329 01:07:25,310 --> 01:07:21,640 on 1330 01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:25,320 you know like similarities between the 1331 01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:28,000 current you know Modern Languages and 1332 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:31,950 then the the like the anti diluvian 1333 01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:35,770 languages everything that you know we 1334 01:07:42,210 --> 01:07:38,950 now use as language has a root cause 1335 01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:42,220 that you know went back way beyond what 1336 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:44,950 we know as accepted history well he was 1337 01:07:51,330 --> 01:07:48,730 he was quite a character to say the the 1338 01:07:54,930 --> 01:07:51,340 least I know I had quite a bit of 1339 01:07:57,050 --> 01:07:54,940 correspondence with him back when he was 1340 01:08:00,000 --> 01:07:57,060 still he I think he passed away in the 1341 01:08:02,010 --> 01:08:00,010 1970s and of course a you've written a 1342 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:02,020 book about the substitute what is it 1343 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:03,490 called the reality in the subterranean 1344 01:08:07,740 --> 01:08:07,090 world yes yes yes and we've we've 1345 01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:07,750 published 1346 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:12,880 the original a hidden world there were 1347 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:16,210 sixteen volumes in the series I think we 1348 01:08:22,019 --> 01:08:19,330 had fifteen of them but one of the one 1349 01:08:23,849 --> 01:08:22,029 of the printers I disappeared not only 1350 01:08:29,099 --> 01:08:23,859 with some of our money but with also the 1351 01:08:31,470 --> 01:08:29,109 masters to the book this is gonna blow 1352 01:08:35,579 --> 01:08:31,480 you away how about if I told you the 1353 01:08:39,870 --> 01:08:35,589 Library of Alexandria still exists well 1354 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:39,880 where can we find it okay here it is 1355 01:08:46,349 --> 01:08:42,970 okay check this out okay 1356 01:08:50,910 --> 01:08:46,359 as the people were writing on their 1357 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:50,920 Scrolls and depositing their stories in 1358 01:08:58,349 --> 01:08:54,730 the Library of Alexandria they had to 1359 01:09:01,050 --> 01:08:58,359 see what they were writing so light was 1360 01:09:04,559 --> 01:09:01,060 reflecting off that scroll the light 1361 01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:04,569 down stuff and it exists in our 1362 01:09:08,910 --> 01:09:07,390 atmosphere and let's say there's aliens 1363 01:09:11,130 --> 01:09:08,920 on the other side of the galaxy and they 1364 01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:11,140 have this high-power telescope and 1365 01:09:17,130 --> 01:09:13,900 they're directing this telescope to 1366 01:09:20,430 --> 01:09:17,140 earth and they have their let's say the 1367 01:09:23,099 --> 01:09:20,440 power to magnify what is going on on 1368 01:09:28,099 --> 01:09:23,109 earth while they're seeing the light in 1369 01:09:31,690 --> 01:09:28,109 the past so they're possibly seeing sees 1370 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:31,700 they're seeing a Roman gladiator 1371 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:34,250 fighting in combat in the Roman days 1372 01:09:41,050 --> 01:09:37,610 they're singing the past they're seeing 1373 01:09:43,180 --> 01:09:41,060 the life from the past on earth so 1374 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:43,190 everything that was written in the 1375 01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:46,490 Library of Alexandria exists in light 1376 01:09:53,620 --> 01:09:49,390 form and is still traveling in space 1377 01:09:56,590 --> 01:09:53,630 because they had to have light to write 1378 01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:56,600 on the stroll so the light had bounced 1379 01:10:01,590 --> 01:09:58,730 off the stroke and it bounced into the 1380 01:10:05,650 --> 01:10:01,600 atmosphere and it lives on forever and 1381 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:05,660 the life that's being generated on the 1382 01:10:11,260 --> 01:10:08,690 other side of the galaxy is everything 1383 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:11,270 that happened on earth in the past and 1384 01:10:16,930 --> 01:10:14,090 if aliens were looking at the world from 1385 01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:16,940 the other side of the galaxy they would 1386 01:10:22,230 --> 01:10:19,520 be seeing things they would be seeing 1387 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:22,240 London England when Jack the Ripper was 1388 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:27,050 walking around so it exists in white 1389 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:30,050 form now well that makes sense because I 1390 01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,210 mean you know if you go outside and look 1391 01:10:37,620 --> 01:10:34,400 at the Stars you know you're looking 1392 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:37,630 into the past because it's taken 1393 01:10:45,490 --> 01:10:42,170 millions of years for that star light to 1394 01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:45,500 to reach us and well and right now we 1395 01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:49,340 have to give up our starlight for our 1396 01:10:55,810 --> 01:10:52,880 next round of break so when we come back 1397 01:11:05,490 --> 01:10:55,820 we'll continue this conversation on 1398 01:11:12,220 --> 01:11:09,640 now back to exploring the bazaar with 1399 01:11:15,220 --> 01:11:12,230 two of the most electrifying researchers 1400 01:11:20,530 --> 01:11:15,230 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 1401 01:11:22,810 --> 01:11:20,540 Rebecca Lee and team sports all right 1402 01:11:24,670 --> 01:11:22,820 here we are at the last segment of the 1403 01:11:29,950 --> 01:11:24,680 program and tonight we're talking with 1404 01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:29,960 dr. dr. Reverend Sean Whittington and 1405 01:11:42,850 --> 01:11:35,840 Paul Dale Roberts I've gone and give you 1406 01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:42,860 a giving you an extra degree there dr. 1407 01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:49,520 Reverend I I have a question for you 1408 01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:52,460 ever and Sean and this was this is from 1409 01:12:00,100 --> 01:11:56,590 Dave in the UK and and Paul after Sean 1410 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:00,110 answers this question and you can chime 1411 01:12:04,750 --> 01:12:02,210 in and give your hidden to it as well 1412 01:12:06,910 --> 01:12:04,760 now Dave wants to know he said that he 1413 01:12:10,060 --> 01:12:06,920 was watching an episode of paranormal 1414 01:12:12,130 --> 01:12:10,070 witness and this show I guess said that 1415 01:12:14,410 --> 01:12:12,140 possessions in America are on the rise 1416 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:14,420 and Dave wants to know could this have 1417 01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:16,490 anything to do with the amount of ghost 1418 01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:20,510 hunting programs on TV where you know I 1419 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:22,130 heard group of Ghost Hunters or 1420 01:12:27,130 --> 01:12:24,170 teenagers go into abandoned buildings 1421 01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:27,140 defying ghosts and you know people 1422 01:12:31,540 --> 01:12:29,180 thinking that they should try it for 1423 01:12:35,050 --> 01:12:31,550 themselves and go in blind with nothing 1424 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:35,060 protecting them from evil spirits we 1425 01:12:40,180 --> 01:12:38,810 think okay well I'm gonna I'm gonna hit 1426 01:12:45,310 --> 01:12:40,190 you right between the eyes with it are 1427 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:45,320 you ready all right go for it possibly 1428 01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:50,690 but this is this is what I believe I'm 1429 01:12:58,420 --> 01:12:54,110 gonna try not to get too preachy here go 1430 01:13:03,820 --> 01:12:58,430 for it but this is what I believe we are 1431 01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,830 living in hell God gave earth to Satan 1432 01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:05,600 and all the fallen angels so we're 1433 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:09,440 actually in their world what God also 1434 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:11,930 did because He loves us so much was he 1435 01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:12,530 put 1436 01:13:21,010 --> 01:13:16,849 a powerful hedge of protection around us 1437 01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:21,020 and you can envision it as an actual you 1438 01:13:27,850 --> 01:13:25,550 know hedge like a plant bush tree or you 1439 01:13:30,010 --> 01:13:27,860 can envision it like a wall a brick wall 1440 01:13:34,089 --> 01:13:30,020 let's say with mortar in between it old 1441 01:13:36,910 --> 01:13:34,099 bricks and it's always constantly being 1442 01:13:40,060 --> 01:13:36,920 chipped away at by the evil which is 1443 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:40,070 completely surrounding all of us and on 1444 01:13:44,830 --> 01:13:42,770 the other side of this hedge of 1445 01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:44,840 protection spiritual heads protection 1446 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:50,329 from us now there have been it's been so 1447 01:13:54,310 --> 01:13:52,250 chewed away and chipped away and 1448 01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:54,320 deteriorated away and so much of the 1449 01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:56,030 darkness has seeped through like a 1450 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:00,800 cancer into our side that that is the 1451 01:14:08,290 --> 01:14:05,090 reason why there is so much evil in the 1452 01:14:11,109 --> 01:14:08,300 world and evil going on and men doing 1453 01:14:14,169 --> 01:14:11,119 evil against one another and there's 1454 01:14:16,890 --> 01:14:14,179 that's why there's groups out there that 1455 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:16,900 people don't know about with extremely 1456 01:14:24,549 --> 01:14:20,449 devout religious people that are in 1457 01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:24,559 constant prayer around the clock to push 1458 01:14:32,859 --> 01:14:29,329 the darkness back and there's a war 1459 01:14:35,260 --> 01:14:32,869 coming we know what how it ends we know 1460 01:14:40,689 --> 01:14:35,270 we win but there's going to be a lot of 1461 01:14:42,580 --> 01:14:40,699 souls loss in the process so there's an 1462 01:14:45,850 --> 01:14:42,590 old another old saying be careful what 1463 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:45,860 you wish for and you know be careful 1464 01:14:49,899 --> 01:14:48,170 what you do when you go out there these 1465 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:49,909 lot of these like I said a lot of my 1466 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:52,730 clients are paranormal investigators and 1467 01:14:57,549 --> 01:14:55,610 they're not trained and they go places 1468 01:14:59,529 --> 01:14:57,559 where they shouldn't and they do things 1469 01:15:02,169 --> 01:14:59,539 that they shouldn't and they have these 1470 01:15:04,350 --> 01:15:02,179 things attach themselves to them and 1471 01:15:08,470 --> 01:15:04,360 then they don't know how to get 1472 01:15:12,189 --> 01:15:08,480 unattached from these disgusting 1473 01:15:15,580 --> 01:15:12,199 creatures and then they need to go find 1474 01:15:18,370 --> 01:15:15,590 help so could it be 1475 01:15:23,020 --> 01:15:18,380 I believe all these shows are influenced 1476 01:15:24,549 --> 01:15:23,030 by something beyond us because they seem 1477 01:15:25,639 --> 01:15:24,559 to be everywhere I'm not a big fan of 1478 01:15:30,270 --> 01:15:25,649 them I don't watch the 1479 01:15:31,919 --> 01:15:30,280 paranormal reality TV shows but my take 1480 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:31,929 is it's much bigger than that 1481 01:15:38,729 --> 01:15:36,449 and yes exorcisms are on the rise and 1482 01:15:41,909 --> 01:15:38,739 like I said guys I deal with it every 1483 01:15:46,349 --> 01:15:41,919 day so all I can do is speak for my 1484 01:15:47,549 --> 01:15:46,359 experience but before we move on to 1485 01:15:49,529 --> 01:15:47,559 either one of you they want to say 1486 01:15:53,609 --> 01:15:49,539 anything about it I just want everybody 1487 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:53,619 that just heard me say that just working 1488 01:15:58,679 --> 01:15:56,050 on your humility work on your love for 1489 01:16:00,479 --> 01:15:58,689 your fellow man turning the other cheek 1490 01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:00,489 I know it's hard it's hard for me too 1491 01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:02,289 but just try to be a better person 1492 01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,320 tomorrow than you were today and so on 1493 01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:07,199 and so on and let's just try to 1494 01:16:12,529 --> 01:16:10,239 altogether whatever God it is you pray 1495 01:16:16,469 --> 01:16:12,539 to let's all start praying to push this 1496 01:16:18,359 --> 01:16:16,479 darkness back because it's all around us 1497 01:16:20,819 --> 01:16:18,369 and it's going to get a lot worse before 1498 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:20,829 it gets better but we have to draw our 1499 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:25,090 line in the sand and make a fight all 1500 01:16:29,659 --> 01:16:27,489 right that's what Paul do you do you 1501 01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:29,669 have anything you want to say on this 1502 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:33,249 well one thing is turn normal TV I mean 1503 01:16:38,219 --> 01:16:36,010 I'm sorry reality TV is not reality and 1504 01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:38,229 I've done a lot of documentaries I'm 1505 01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:43,320 from my ghost story Penn & Teller's full 1506 01:16:52,169 --> 01:16:45,340 part of the world because the wrong 1507 01:16:55,770 --> 01:16:52,179 radio but what I've experienced will say 1508 01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:55,780 well reality TV is like with my ghost 1509 01:17:00,029 --> 01:16:56,249 story 1510 01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,039 biography channel I did three episodes 1511 01:17:06,629 --> 01:17:03,760 and um and I would tell the story and 1512 01:17:08,819 --> 01:17:06,639 they go well Paul Chaney spice it up 1513 01:17:11,069 --> 01:17:08,829 Kings came that they're the couple were 1514 01:17:12,989 --> 01:17:11,079 laying in bed and then the entity came 1515 01:17:17,129 --> 01:17:12,999 through the window oh that's not how it 1516 01:17:20,849 --> 01:17:17,139 happened I'll just say it and so a lot 1517 01:17:24,179 --> 01:17:20,859 of these people they watch TV and and a 1518 01:17:26,009 --> 01:17:24,189 lot of these reality shows like let's 1519 01:17:28,799 --> 01:17:26,019 say Ghost Adventures they're getting 1520 01:17:32,069 --> 01:17:28,809 evidence all the time well it doesn't 1521 01:17:33,659 --> 01:17:32,079 happen that way I've been over on 1,000 1522 01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:33,669 investigations over a thousand 1523 01:17:39,109 --> 01:17:36,780 investigations and when we go in there a 1524 01:17:41,209 --> 01:17:39,119 lot of times were boarded 1525 01:17:44,780 --> 01:17:41,219 because we're not getting any evidence 1526 01:17:47,930 --> 01:17:44,790 and a lot of times the entities in the 1527 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:47,940 house are from the imaginations of the 1528 01:17:52,729 --> 01:17:50,730 occupants they are imagining these 1529 01:17:54,140 --> 01:17:52,739 things are happening the tall take a 1530 01:17:56,750 --> 01:17:54,150 look at the carpet because there's a 1531 01:17:59,540 --> 01:17:56,760 demon face on the carpet I don't see a 1532 01:18:03,709 --> 01:17:59,550 demon face but I do see were your dog 1533 01:18:06,410 --> 01:18:03,719 pooped on the carpet you know and so 1534 01:18:09,050 --> 01:18:06,420 it's just I don't know him then these 1535 01:18:11,180 --> 01:18:09,060 kids they watch these shows they they've 1536 01:18:13,700 --> 01:18:11,190 come these amateur ghost hunters and 1537 01:18:17,149 --> 01:18:13,710 they go into the cemetery and they try 1538 01:18:19,580 --> 01:18:17,159 to provoke the spirits and I heard one 1539 01:18:22,129 --> 01:18:19,590 case where this kid went into the 1540 01:18:24,970 --> 01:18:22,139 cemetery and kicked over a tombstone and 1541 01:18:28,879 --> 01:18:24,980 then all of sudden he and an attachment 1542 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:28,889 the ghost followed him home we're very 1543 01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:30,810 upset because he kicked over his 1544 01:18:38,060 --> 01:18:34,110 tombstone and was haunting him at his 1545 01:18:42,979 --> 01:18:38,070 house so something like that could be 1546 01:18:46,030 --> 01:18:42,989 real I would say like if I go on 10 1547 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:46,040 investigations about three of them 1548 01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:48,690 there's some type of paranormal activity 1549 01:18:52,930 --> 01:18:50,760 otherwise there's really nothing and the 1550 01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:52,940 kids when they're watching these shows 1551 01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:56,159 they're just so excited because you know 1552 01:19:00,470 --> 01:18:58,290 zak bagans is getting all this evidence 1553 01:19:02,930 --> 01:19:00,480 so they're going out and investigating 1554 01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,940 all these crazy things and doing all 1555 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:04,800 kinds of stuff and provoking all kinds 1556 01:19:10,580 --> 01:19:07,050 of spirits and they wind up getting 1557 01:19:13,339 --> 01:19:10,590 themselves in trouble so and as for evil 1558 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,349 and good and evil all there's good and 1559 01:19:18,609 --> 01:19:16,080 evil throughout the whole universe so 1560 01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:18,619 you're going to always have people 1561 01:19:24,229 --> 01:19:21,510 harboring that evil and one of the 1562 01:19:27,290 --> 01:19:24,239 things that I do now is born and raised 1563 01:19:30,290 --> 01:19:27,300 a Catholic is when the person has an 1564 01:19:32,990 --> 01:19:30,300 attachment I actually asked them do you 1565 01:19:34,850 --> 01:19:33,000 want a full submersion baptism and what 1566 01:19:37,629 --> 01:19:34,860 ideas i baptize them right in their 1567 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:37,639 bathtub and there I'm actually 1568 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:40,170 successful because they tell me Paul I 1569 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:42,330 don't have an attachment anymore 1570 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,810 I don't know if they're yes like a 1571 01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:48,000 placebo type pill or something where 1572 01:19:52,820 --> 01:19:51,690 they actually believe it works I believe 1573 01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:52,830 it works I call 1574 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:55,500 on angels I really have a strong belief 1575 01:20:01,870 --> 01:19:57,810 in angels I believe that angels watch 1576 01:20:04,820 --> 01:20:01,880 over us and protect us and I am very 1577 01:20:07,550 --> 01:20:04,830 powerful in my prayers I I asked for 1578 01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:07,560 angels to please assist me and help me 1579 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:10,290 and I did my full submersion baptism and 1580 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:12,690 the attachment is gone when I bless a 1581 01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:15,810 home I have the Occident colony Paul 1582 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,450 this no more ents I just in fact I just 1583 01:20:23,930 --> 01:20:21,360 got contacted by Ghost Adventures 1584 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:23,940 because they read one of my blog stories 1585 01:20:29,630 --> 01:20:27,600 on the Selby investigation mm-hm 1586 01:20:32,210 --> 01:20:29,640 so they contacted the octa and they said 1587 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:32,220 hey is there anything going on in your 1588 01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:34,770 house after Paul blessed it they said no 1589 01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:37,110 they said there's nothing going on in 1590 01:20:41,930 --> 01:20:40,110 our house and then they said well we're 1591 01:20:43,490 --> 01:20:41,940 not interested in the story anymore 1592 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:43,500 because they were going to actually send 1593 01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:46,170 Zach over there and they go wait a 1594 01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:48,420 minute you know they actually wanted 1595 01:20:56,090 --> 01:20:51,390 that to comfortable lives in the house 1596 01:20:58,580 --> 01:20:56,100 was a Zach fan and I and I said wow I 1597 01:21:02,750 --> 01:20:58,590 said so when I blessed your house just 1598 01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:02,760 gone huh she goes yeah so I don't know i 1599 01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:05,460 when i start blessing homes and doing 1600 01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:07,920 baptisms i wasn't really sure of myself 1601 01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:11,340 but i I do have strong belief in angels 1602 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:13,860 and I believe that angels listen to me 1603 01:21:21,290 --> 01:21:16,770 the power of prayer and they come in and 1604 01:21:25,610 --> 01:21:21,300 they help me so now you know but when 1605 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:25,620 you would you talk about angels now you 1606 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:28,410 know it seems to me from what I've read 1607 01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:33,330 in in the Bible I'm not too sure if I'd 1608 01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:36,360 want to be calling on angels because I 1609 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:37,710 mean they always seem to be the ones 1610 01:21:41,390 --> 01:21:39,930 that are doing God's dirty work I mean 1611 01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:41,400 you know the other ones that come down 1612 01:21:48,170 --> 01:21:44,880 and you know kick ass yeah I believe 1613 01:21:51,020 --> 01:21:48,180 that there's angels that are evil evil 1614 01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:51,030 like that your fallen angels and there's 1615 01:21:57,650 --> 01:21:53,970 angels who are actually looking out for 1616 01:22:01,250 --> 01:21:57,660 the welfare of mankind and they're 1617 01:22:04,130 --> 01:22:01,260 trying to make things happen that are 1618 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:04,140 good so I believe there's good angels 1619 01:22:14,970 --> 01:22:11,950 Reverend Shawn I recently that's dr. 1620 01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,980 Reverend Shawn doctor reference now 1621 01:22:23,970 --> 01:22:16,880 you're gonna have to have that printed 1622 01:22:26,290 --> 01:22:23,980 up now I get some t-shirts made up 1623 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:26,300 instead of wearing the rosary I'll have 1624 01:22:31,930 --> 01:22:28,570 a stethoscope 1625 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:31,940 we've had several ideas for t-shirts on 1626 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:34,010 this show tonight so I'm gonna have to 1627 01:22:44,580 --> 01:22:37,130 write these down I'd start making some 1628 01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:44,590 money a lot of these especially 1629 01:22:53,950 --> 01:22:51,679 poltergeist cases where the the 1630 01:22:56,020 --> 01:22:53,960 situation gets so bad that a family will 1631 01:22:58,839 --> 01:22:56,030 call in say like a priest or a minister 1632 01:23:00,729 --> 01:22:58,849 or whatever to come and and and bless 1633 01:23:04,919 --> 01:23:00,739 the house though some holy water around 1634 01:23:07,689 --> 01:23:04,929 or or whatever and and most of the time 1635 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:07,699 it doesn't do any good in fact it seems 1636 01:23:13,299 --> 01:23:09,530 to make things worse you know the 1637 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:13,309 poltergeist uh you know almost you know 1638 01:23:19,149 --> 01:23:16,250 gets gets you know honked off and and 1639 01:23:23,260 --> 01:23:19,159 doubles down on on the things that it's 1640 01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:23,270 it's doing now you know I have have you 1641 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:28,400 had experiences along these lines or is 1642 01:23:34,959 --> 01:23:31,730 this a situation where we're talking 1643 01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:34,969 about a different type of entity rather 1644 01:23:42,490 --> 01:23:38,510 than say like a you know like a demonic 1645 01:23:45,790 --> 01:23:42,500 entity or you know you're dealing with 1646 01:23:47,709 --> 01:23:45,800 you know like a priest or a minister who 1647 01:23:50,979 --> 01:23:47,719 really has no idea what they're doing it 1648 01:23:52,810 --> 01:23:50,989 just comes in and you know does just 1649 01:23:54,939 --> 01:23:52,820 kind of like goes through the motions 1650 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:54,949 but doesn't have that that faith or 1651 01:24:00,850 --> 01:23:57,530 belief system behind them to you know 1652 01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:00,860 really do the job well I believe I'm on 1653 01:24:04,689 --> 01:24:02,449 the fence with the whole poltergeist 1654 01:24:07,359 --> 01:24:04,699 thing the term poltergeist is being 1655 01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:07,369 thrown around as much as the term demon 1656 01:24:10,899 --> 01:24:09,440 I think the poltergeist can be many 1657 01:24:13,899 --> 01:24:10,909 different things a very malevolent 1658 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:13,909 entity it could be a demon it could be 1659 01:24:19,340 --> 01:24:16,890 you know a telekinesis being 1660 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:19,350 caused by you know a mentally disturbed 1661 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:21,810 person in the family or the daughter 1662 01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:23,850 just going into puberty or the son just 1663 01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:26,400 going into puberty in there you know 1664 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:28,080 they've all got some other issues and 1665 01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:31,010 it's lashing out that way 1666 01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:33,390 reverends that show up and want to do a 1667 01:24:40,460 --> 01:24:37,110 lot of fire and brimstone religious 1668 01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:40,470 provocation type stuff definitely in my 1669 01:24:47,630 --> 01:24:44,130 experience make things worse but after 1670 01:24:51,410 --> 01:24:47,640 me seeing so many clients not want to 1671 01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:51,420 allow me to help them and do what I need 1672 01:24:58,100 --> 01:24:54,870 from them the faith thing that you 1673 01:25:00,620 --> 01:24:58,110 mentioned is more them not having it 1674 01:25:02,870 --> 01:25:00,630 than the religious person that's they're 1675 01:25:06,770 --> 01:25:02,880 trying to help them so that's where the 1676 01:25:13,190 --> 01:25:06,780 problem comes in they need to be totally 1677 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:13,200 on board with why you're there and what 1678 01:25:20,420 --> 01:25:15,690 needs to be done to give them their 1679 01:25:22,580 --> 01:25:20,430 house and their life and their their 1680 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:22,590 situation bring some closure to this get 1681 01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,010 whatever this thing is to move on and 1682 01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:27,840 I'm you know I'm sorry to say more times 1683 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:30,840 than not when I get there and really you 1684 01:25:36,230 --> 01:25:34,170 know get to the bottom of what's there 1685 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:36,240 and start telling these people what I 1686 01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:38,730 need from them and in what they need to 1687 01:25:43,610 --> 01:25:41,880 do lots of times people aren't aren't 1688 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:43,620 ready they either haven't hit rock 1689 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:51,090 bottom yet or I I just I don't know what 1690 01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:53,210 what holds them back or if they're being 1691 01:26:00,080 --> 01:25:58,290 influenced by the entity to not be on 1692 01:26:01,490 --> 01:26:00,090 board they were able to reach out for 1693 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:01,500 help but now that I'm there to help 1694 01:26:08,030 --> 01:26:03,810 they're not willing to do what I need 1695 01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:08,040 them to do to to get the help so I have 1696 01:26:15,830 --> 01:26:12,870 to cut many many clients cut them loose 1697 01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:15,840 and and that like I said that's the most 1698 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:18,000 heartbreaking thing for me and in what I 1699 01:26:23,570 --> 01:26:21,930 do so the faith thing has to come my 1700 01:26:25,970 --> 01:26:23,580 first thing I'm on board with everything 1701 01:26:28,370 --> 01:26:25,980 Paul said I think Paul is a blessed 1702 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:28,380 individual and I think he's going to do 1703 01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:30,170 some great things and contribute 1704 01:26:35,709 --> 01:26:33,110 some great things in his lifetime in 1705 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:35,719 this field but yeah the people most 1706 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:38,090 people I asked them first off what 1707 01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:40,130 religious belief system do you have in 1708 01:26:45,340 --> 01:26:43,040 place and I will refer them first to 1709 01:26:47,950 --> 01:26:45,350 their church to talk to their pastors 1710 01:26:50,709 --> 01:26:47,960 and their ministers and if they don't 1711 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:50,719 have one in place then I see what I can 1712 01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,850 do to help them put one in place and if 1713 01:27:01,209 --> 01:26:58,400 I can't like I said if I'm just up 1714 01:27:05,260 --> 01:27:01,219 against a brick wall then there's really 1715 01:27:07,060 --> 01:27:05,270 nothing I can do yeah Reverend you know 1716 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:07,070 some of my situations you know the 1717 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:09,890 people are Buddhist or Hindu or Native 1718 01:27:17,340 --> 01:27:12,530 American Indian did investigation and 1719 01:27:20,020 --> 01:27:17,350 Colo was on Indian territory there and 1720 01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:20,030 when that happens because I'm a Catholic 1721 01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:23,600 I do my way what I try to do is I find a 1722 01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:27,679 person of Hindu belief and I have them 1723 01:27:33,150 --> 01:27:30,260 come in with me to do a type of 1724 01:27:35,979 --> 01:27:33,160 cleansing in their belief system so 1725 01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:35,989 that's what I do you know I respected 1726 01:27:40,150 --> 01:27:37,760 whatever it was they want to believe in 1727 01:27:44,740 --> 01:27:40,160 you know I respect it just like my wife 1728 01:27:49,390 --> 01:27:44,750 she's pagan I'm a Catholic but you know 1729 01:27:52,419 --> 01:27:49,400 she she respects my beliefs and I 1730 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:52,429 respect her beliefs and she'll do and 1731 01:27:58,060 --> 01:27:55,370 some of our cases are with pagans we 1732 01:27:59,680 --> 01:27:58,070 just had one recently and she came in 1733 01:28:03,070 --> 01:27:59,690 there and did a metaphysical type 1734 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:03,080 cleansing so you know more power to them 1735 01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:05,170 you know so Absalom 1736 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:08,510 yeah I feel works it works and and ask 1737 01:28:15,630 --> 01:28:12,410 for the poltergeist thing I had a case 1738 01:28:20,260 --> 01:28:15,640 where the / the their child was autistic 1739 01:28:24,340 --> 01:28:20,270 and it seemed like he was projecting the 1740 01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:24,350 energy to knock over plates off the 1741 01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:29,030 shelves or or moving a key chain across 1742 01:28:36,490 --> 01:28:34,880 the kitchen table so the poltergeist I 1743 01:28:38,860 --> 01:28:36,500 don't really believe there was a ghost 1744 01:28:43,450 --> 01:28:38,870 there or a demon or anything else but it 1745 01:28:47,260 --> 01:28:43,460 seemed like that child had the ability 1746 01:28:49,150 --> 01:28:47,270 uh to move objects and and open up 1747 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:49,160 cabinets and stuff like that with us 1748 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:51,410 mine so I believe that was the 1749 01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,530 poltergeist activity in that house yeah 1750 01:28:59,320 --> 01:28:57,040 absolutely 1751 01:29:01,620 --> 01:28:59,330 yeah I'll be what are the one of the 1752 01:29:05,290 --> 01:29:01,630 reasons that I that I always like to ask 1753 01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:05,300 that particular question is that you 1754 01:29:11,709 --> 01:29:08,239 know I have observed a number of times 1755 01:29:15,150 --> 01:29:11,719 you know people who will have pulled or 1756 01:29:22,020 --> 01:29:19,780 doesn't really and at that point really 1757 01:29:26,020 --> 01:29:22,030 has exhibited any kind of personality 1758 01:29:29,020 --> 01:29:26,030 but then somebody will come in and say 1759 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:29,030 oh you know is this isn't a poltergeist 1760 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:31,370 this is this is a demon you know or an 1761 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:34,010 evil spirit and then all of a sudden the 1762 01:29:38,979 --> 01:29:36,770 activity starts taking on that guy's 1763 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:38,989 like it was listening you know I mean 1764 01:29:44,590 --> 01:29:42,290 real go ahead there's a real I'm sorry 1765 01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:44,600 I'm sorry but there's a real famous case 1766 01:29:50,050 --> 01:29:47,600 there's a real famous case the guide the 1767 01:29:51,940 --> 01:29:50,060 author who wrote the shadow I can't 1768 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:51,950 think of his name right now but the 1769 01:29:57,130 --> 01:29:54,650 author of the shadow this is a very 1770 01:30:01,720 --> 01:29:57,140 documented case but his friends who 1771 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:01,730 would go to his house and see a ghost or 1772 01:30:08,430 --> 01:30:04,370 whatever that looked like his character 1773 01:30:12,250 --> 01:30:08,440 the shadow and a lot of 1774 01:30:14,740 --> 01:30:12,260 parapsychologists they theorized that he 1775 01:30:17,620 --> 01:30:14,750 was thinking so much of his character 1776 01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:17,630 the shadow that he actually made it 1777 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:20,960 manifest and like the Krampus cases I 1778 01:30:26,590 --> 01:30:22,810 was talking about during our break I 1779 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:26,600 think that the girl who was playing with 1780 01:30:31,570 --> 01:30:27,530 the Ouija board 1781 01:30:34,270 --> 01:30:31,580 she may have manifested with her mind 1782 01:30:36,430 --> 01:30:34,280 that the Krampus even though it's a 1783 01:30:39,580 --> 01:30:36,440 fictional character she was thinking 1784 01:30:43,209 --> 01:30:39,590 about it so hard she actually made the 1785 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:43,219 character come to life through her mind 1786 01:30:51,970 --> 01:30:48,050 through energy so and the the guy who 1787 01:30:56,660 --> 01:30:51,980 wrote the shadow this his character was 1788 01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,670 haunting his home so that was mind blown 1789 01:31:00,440 --> 01:30:58,320 you know Tim when you mention that it 1790 01:31:04,180 --> 01:31:00,450 the first thing I thought of was these 1791 01:31:08,270 --> 01:31:04,190 non-human entities that are they 1792 01:31:11,180 --> 01:31:08,280 manifest from the environment and 1793 01:31:14,630 --> 01:31:11,190 something so terrible happened at a 1794 01:31:18,410 --> 01:31:14,640 particular location that this non-human 1795 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:18,420 entity manifests from that environment 1796 01:31:24,950 --> 01:31:21,450 and they will lie and wait and they do 1797 01:31:28,250 --> 01:31:24,960 they mimic they take on very 1798 01:31:29,870 --> 01:31:28,260 suggestively just like that so that's 1799 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:29,880 exactly what hit me like a bolt of 1800 01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:31,770 lightning when you talked about that 1801 01:31:37,010 --> 01:31:34,770 particular situation was running I'm 1802 01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:37,020 running into a lot more of cases where 1803 01:31:43,190 --> 01:31:39,210 there's these non-human entities that 1804 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:43,200 never really inhabited a body or were 1805 01:31:48,410 --> 01:31:45,210 alive at any time and they're not demons 1806 01:31:52,910 --> 01:31:48,420 and they're not ghosts it's just that's 1807 01:31:55,730 --> 01:31:52,920 a pretty incredible situation - trying 1808 01:31:59,150 --> 01:31:55,740 to balance what I've go ahead what I've 1809 01:32:02,510 --> 01:31:59,160 also to see is that evil attracts evil 1810 01:32:04,700 --> 01:32:02,520 so like we had this one house that had a 1811 01:32:07,070 --> 01:32:04,710 double murderer there and since you 1812 01:32:10,010 --> 01:32:07,080 walked in there the the couple that 1813 01:32:13,850 --> 01:32:10,020 lived there were constantly in getting 1814 01:32:15,950 --> 01:32:13,860 into arguments and stuff and when you 1815 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:15,960 walk into the house you can feel the 1816 01:32:20,450 --> 01:32:18,570 negative energy and they thought oh 1817 01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:20,460 demon was in the house well I kind of 1818 01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:22,380 believed there was a demon in house too 1819 01:32:27,410 --> 01:32:24,960 because when you have a double murder in 1820 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:27,420 the house the couple is constantly 1821 01:32:31,820 --> 01:32:29,370 fighting and arguing the police have 1822 01:32:33,470 --> 01:32:31,830 been over there for domestic abuse and 1823 01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:33,480 everything else and you got this 1824 01:32:39,530 --> 01:32:37,040 negative atmosphere in that house 1825 01:32:42,050 --> 01:32:39,540 demons are attracted to that so of 1826 01:32:45,860 --> 01:32:42,060 course you're gonna have something evil 1827 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:45,870 in that house because evil took place in 1828 01:32:53,690 --> 01:32:51,210 that house so that's and there was stuff 1829 01:32:59,360 --> 01:32:53,700 that was happening there we actually got 1830 01:33:01,250 --> 01:32:59,370 EVPs and it was a very bad house all 1831 01:33:03,890 --> 01:33:01,260 right gentlemen unfortunately we are 1832 01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:03,900 almost out of time so I want to give you 1833 01:33:09,050 --> 01:33:06,840 a chance to let our listeners know where 1834 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:09,060 they can find out more about you so dr. 1835 01:33:14,970 --> 01:33:10,210 Reverend Shawn 1836 01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:14,980 you go first I have a website ghost - B 1837 01:33:23,370 --> 01:33:19,600 - gun dot biz and I also have a ghost 1838 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:23,380 begun biz one word Facebook page and I'm 1839 01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:25,930 also the host of Vegas supernatural 1840 01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:28,480 which is on every Monday night right 1841 01:33:36,990 --> 01:33:32,830 here on KCUR radio.com and i try to have 1842 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:37,000 as many interesting passionate people 1843 01:33:41,460 --> 01:33:38,890 from all branches of the paranormal 1844 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:41,470 community on every Monday night and just 1845 01:33:49,650 --> 01:33:47,770 have a no-holds-barred open conversation 1846 01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:49,660 of just about whatever we want to talk 1847 01:33:53,610 --> 01:33:50,800 about and it could be anything it 1848 01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:53,620 doesn't always paranormal stuff but I 1849 01:33:58,440 --> 01:33:54,970 want to take this opportunity to thank 1850 01:34:01,050 --> 01:33:58,450 you Tim Paul pleasure to meet you sir 1851 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:01,060 I'll add you to the prayer list yeah 1852 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:02,650 I'll add you to the prayer list buddy 1853 01:34:07,380 --> 01:34:04,930 you and your wife and like I said before 1854 01:34:10,190 --> 01:34:07,390 all the listeners Merry Christmas Happy 1855 01:34:12,750 --> 01:34:10,200 Hanukkah and just work on the left 1856 01:34:15,630 --> 01:34:12,760 okay and Paul brooklet where can they 1857 01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:15,640 find out more about you well they can 1858 01:34:21,180 --> 01:34:18,370 just simply google my name Paul Dale 1859 01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:21,190 Roberts Paul Dale Roberts or go to my 1860 01:34:28,350 --> 01:34:26,110 website WWE as my online and they'll see 1861 01:34:31,350 --> 01:34:28,360 a lot of my stories the videos the 1862 01:34:32,850 --> 01:34:31,360 recording everything's close to right on 1863 01:34:34,830 --> 01:34:32,860 that hard 1864 01:34:36,150 --> 01:34:34,840 alright gentlemen thank you very much 1865 01:34:38,100 --> 01:34:36,160 has been an excellent show tonight I 1866 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:38,110 appreciate you both being on with me 1867 01:34:42,990 --> 01:34:40,810 tonight on exploring the bizarre so tune 1868 01:34:48,990 --> 01:34:43,000 in next week at this time for another 1869 01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:51,210 you've been listening to exploring the 1870 01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:54,490 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley 1871 01:35:00,240 --> 01:34:57,970 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